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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    That's a good point Jeff, but I don't know what the best approach is.  Whatever we do will be a compromise. As far as I am concerned, I built this place to be a place where people could talk about stuff, interact and have a good time, that to my mind is still the primary purpose.  The buying and selling boards are of secondary consideration, and frankly, if people can't be bothered to give anything back, in the form of some sort of contribution to the community, then will we miss them?

    What is undeniable, is that the number of first-time posters whose first interaction here is to sell something, is increasing massively….

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      neph93
      見習いボス
      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      @jordanscollected:

      My only thought that could be a "negative" is that there is probably some people here who browse the site only to buy used items. They may never post, only DM a seller and make a transaction that way. They aren't spamming the site or overloading with posts, only here to quietly spend money.

      Reasonable point, and something we have considered. To be fair… there are lots of places they can do that though, E-bay, Grailed, etc.

      I would like to of set the bar a little lower, say five or ten posts.  But the mechanics of the current platform don’t allow it. Regardless, giving a little in terms of content, should be a small price to pay for access.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        goosehd
        Mod Squad
        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

        @Giles:

        What is undeniable, is that the number of first-time posters whose first interaction here is to sell something, is increasing massively….

        …and not even trying to make a quality buy/sell post for the items that they are trying to sell.  If their post is please see my eBay (or other similar site) are they contributing to the community in any meaningful way?

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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          sabergirl
          見習いボス
          Joined: 4 Oct 2013

          I think 20 posts is a pretty low bar for access. Hopefully it will limit the abusers, and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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            Oaktavia
            見習いボス
            Joined: 12 Jun 2019

            @goosehd:

            @Giles:

            What is undeniable, is that the number of first-time posters whose first interaction here is to sell something, is increasing massively….

            …and not even trying to make a quality buy/sell post for the items that they are trying to sell.  If their post is please see my eBay (or other similar site) are they contributing to the community in any meaningful way?

            This exactly Goose

            IG: electricindigowizard

            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

            WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              @sabergirl:

              and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

              I have a very itchy delete finger…..

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                Perpetual_beta
                Haraki san Student
                Joined: 17 May 2022

                In a cycling Forum that I participate in for the last 20 years with a very active marketplace the 20 post rule has decreased spam a lot.

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                  goosehd
                  Mod Squad
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                  Just a reminder for those of you using the buy/sell feature: Please follow this simple guideline when posting items for sale.

                  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4559.0

                  Some short tips on how to put up an easy to understand item(s) for sale thread

                  1.  come up with a short to the point thread title
                  2.  clearly name the item(s) you have for sale, so that your potential buyer can easy idenfiy the item(s).
                  3.  list the original tag size and inseam (important for pants)
                  4.  provide actual measurements
                  5.  post actual pictures of the item
                  6.  give a word on the condition, any defects, etc.
                  7.  list the price you want to sell your item for
                  8.  include the shipping costs and if you are open to sell worldwide or just within the US or EU, etc
                  9.  name your payment options
                  10. clearly communicate any additional details you think could be important for your customer

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    @Perpetual_beta:

                    In a cycling Forum that I participate in for the last 20 years with a very active marketplace the 20 post rule has decreased spam a lot.

                    That is good to hear. Thanks.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      Chap
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 24 May 2016

                      @neph93:

                      Feel free to offer your opinions on this policy here.

                      @Giles:

                      … this place to be a place where people could talk about stuff, interact and have a good time, that to my mind is still the primary purpose.

                      agree 100%

                      God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                        jordanscollected
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                        FWIW, i think many people people on here would like to ban themselves from browsing the buy/sell forum. The "impulse steal of deal" is real frickin strong on there

                        world tours:
                        888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                        Mad Red x2
                        Wabidashery

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                          Daniel San
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                          Joined: 2 May 2020

                          @Giles:

                          @sabergirl:

                          and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

                          I have a very itchy delete finger…..

                          😄👍

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                            neph93
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            @Giles:

                            @sabergirl:

                            and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

                            I have a very itchy delete finger…..

                            Do you need cream for that? [emoji51]

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
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                              mclaincausey
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                              If the new forum supports badging, when someone is repped as a Hero after a forum transaction, a badge would be handy.

                              Think it, be it.

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                                Matt
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                @jordanscollected:

                                FWIW, i think many people people on here would like to ban themselves from browsing the buy/sell forum. The "impulse steal of deal" is real frickin strong on there

                                Seriously.

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                                  popvulture
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                                  @neph93:

                                  @Perpetual_beta:

                                  In a cycling Forum that I participate in for the last 20 years with a very active marketplace the 20 post rule has decreased spam a lot.

                                  That is good to hear. Thanks.

                                  I'll second this, even would go so far as to say making it higher wouldn't hurt at all, should y'all ever decide 20 isn't filtering enough. I belong to several music gear message boards that have some pretty stringent buy/sell/trade requirements and it hasn't made it any more difficult for sellers. I'm a firm believer that it's great for the community.

                                  WTB
                                  IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                                  Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

                                  last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 20:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    chrisjohnnick
                                    Iron Heart Deity
                                    Joined: 7 Jan 2021

                                    I agree with all of this. I probably only lurked the buy/sell/trade section and bought stuff from there for my first several months on the forum, but had there been a rule in place where there had to be 20 plus posts, I probably would have started it out a little more active in the community. I definitely don't think it would be a deterrent for someone who found the forum because they already are into ironheart, just a deterrent for scammers or people who are only trying to sell a quick thing that they already have listed on ebay/grailed/Poshmark/etc.

                                    Wants List:
                                    IHSH-20-Red, XL
                                    IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                                    IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                                    IHSW-45 Black, M
                                    IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                                    IH-777S-SB size 32
                                    IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @chrisjohnnick:

                                      I agree with all of this. I probably only lurked the buy/sell/trade section and bought stuff from there for my first several months on the forum, but had there been a rule in place where there had to be 20 plus posts, I probably would have started it out a little more active in the community. I definitely don't think it would be a deterrent for someone who found the forum because they already are into ironheart, just a deterrent for scammers or people who are only trying to sell a quick thing that they already have listed on ebay/grailed/Poshmark/etc.

                                      This is how we are thinking. Useful feedback, thank you.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 21:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        bunbut
                                        Haraki san Student
                                        Joined: 17 Dec 2021

                                        I had join recently and bought 1 jacket, 6 shirts and sold 1.  I had been do lots of reading all different post.
                                        How about read only if less than 20 posts?  Buy only can't sell?  I still would like to read what for sales.

                                        Thanks

                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 23:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Anesthetist
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 14 May 2011

                                          @popvulture:

                                          @neph93:

                                          @Perpetual_beta:

                                          In a cycling Forum that I participate in for the last 20 years with a very active marketplace the 20 post rule has decreased spam a lot.

                                          That is good to hear. Thanks.

                                          I'll second this, even would go so far as to say making it higher wouldn't hurt at all, should y'all ever decide 20 isn't filtering enough. I belong to several music gear message boards that have some pretty stringent buy/sell/trade requirements and it hasn't made it any more difficult for sellers. I'm a firm believer that it's great for the community.

                                          I agree wholeheartedly. Watchuseek used to have a similar rule and I think it helped clean up their sales area.

                                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                          IG: bluehandsslim

                                          last edited by 22 Nov 2022, 00:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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