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    • iamjustdannyI
      iamjustdanny
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      @Boyo:

      This was going around a bit recently, supposed to be a former SJ employee, I certainly cant verify it..

      https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZgVH-iot0m/?utm_medium=share_sheet

      oooof, that's definitely not a good look at all.

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      • iamjustdannyI
        iamjustdanny
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        @popvulture:

        Yeah I think they're $598 now, which… ouch. I'm not sure if I could stomach paying that for a canvas jacket.

        I think they were $450 when I bought mine, was just trying to remember how much I'll have to pay when my remaining tab is due.

        Yep, they've gone up in price. I got in when it was $548 and they've increased it to $598.

        I guess with V2 comes the price increase. Adding the 2 way zipper, lining and other things, something had to give.

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        • MattM
          Matt
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          Supply chain issues.    😛

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          • KarolK
            Karol
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            There is something even more disturbing at closer inspection (in comment from the OP https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZgVH-iot0m/?utm_medium=share_sheet):
            "I didn't even get into what a duplicitous piece of work with anger issues Mike is."
            … well, that went south fast

            Favorite:
            IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
            IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
            IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
            IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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            • Danimal506D
              Danimal506
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              If memory serves me right, Ship John was recently hiring more staff and was paying well over $15/hr plus offered medical and dental etc.
              So yea maybe this dude and Mike didn’t get along, that’s human interaction. But who really thought they made the thermals in house?
              Next we’re gonna find out the beanies and hats aren’t made in house! Oh no 😢

              Kyle, TX

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              • Salted RacerS
                Salted Racer
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                Very interesting. I know I debated between a rouge territory jacket and Ship John. I'll admit the 'exclusivity' factor and the ungodly weight swayed me over and I laid down a deposit. I get major d-bag vibes from Mike but that's my own bias showing–he could very well be the nicest dude ever.

                Two sides to every story as well. Did Mike have "anger" issues with this guy b/c he came late every day or left early type thing...who knows

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                • T
                  Tmulltuous
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                  Feels like a disgruntled employee that was expecting everything right away. It takes 5-10 years in most fields here before you're competent enough to demand a decent living.

                  From a business perspective I remember him saying he orders the canvas from a textile supplier in New Jersey. Would guess its this one: http://www.fairfieldtextile.com/sounds/Stock_Items_prices_and_charges27.pdf
                  Figure $100-150 in material then you pay experienced people $100-150 to make each jacket, shipping etc, and you're at  50% margins. Obviously the costs of the machines, workspace, tools aren't there, but that is probably what keeps the brand afloat.

                  If it was just about money I imagine it would be more profitable for him to just license out the brand or sell a share on the low.

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                  • steelworkerS
                    steelworker
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                    Mike suffered injuries from from a hatchet attack so maybe -PTSD. I don't know the guy, I can't say.

                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                    Well, I have others.

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                    • Salted RacerS
                      Salted Racer
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                      Good point @Tmulltuous indeed. I can imagine a young guy starting at SJ thinking there would be some glamor, given the brand.

                      If I started at Iron Heart tomorrow, I doubt Alex is sending me to Japan right off the bat to have productive discussions with Haraki or the mills. You have to earn your way over the years.

                      Certainly, when it comes down to it, I've never heard anyone that knows the industry say anything but good things about the Wills.

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                      • Danimal506D
                        Danimal506
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                        I found out about Ship John years ago on Deans podcast. Seems pretty genuine to me. I’ll take my own opinions vs someone on tiktok.

                        It’s very stressful running a business and paying for other people’s livelihoods. Not that I have ever owned a company. But I’d like to hear this dudes feelings after he starts his own company from scratch and has a dozen employees to take care of.

                        https://m.soundcloud.com/deandelray/408-mike-elias-ship-john

                        Kyle, TX

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          Let's stop the conjecture, none of us know anything about what we are talking about.

                          And listen to this instead…....

                          https://ironcast.buzzsprout.com/1739026/8750050-iron-cast-s1-ep6-mike-elias-from-ship-john

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • Salted RacerS
                            Salted Racer
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                            Agreed—let’s not put the ‘ass’ in assumption here. Thanks for the links will give them a listen.

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                            • mclaincauseyM
                              mclaincausey
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                              I have a Flint & Tender trucker made from one of Fairfiel's Martexin canvases, and it is a lovely fabric. It's far superior IMO to the Barbour and Belstaff I've had exposure to, less stinky and more subtle in its application and does a great job shedding water.

                              @Tmulltuous

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • Danimal506D
                                Danimal506
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                                On a positive my Wills should be here in a day or two!
                                I’m glad it’s cooling off here in Texas. Hopefully I can get some good work time in it!

                                Kyle, TX

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                                • CreaseC
                                  Crease
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                                  I got my Wills a month or so ago and I love the thing! It is super heavy duty and I’m glad I sized up to XXL regular. Feels just right with a larger hoodie inside and I can get it over an Iron heart western easily. Looking forward to this getting more worked in!  😎

                                  Edit:
                                  FYI, The XXL chest for me is about 2” bigger than my IH shirt size. Other measurements are about my normal size.

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                                  • KarolK
                                    Karol
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                                    A great looking specimen @Crease !!

                                    Favorite:
                                    IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                    IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                    IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                    IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                                    • Danimal506D
                                      Danimal506
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                                      Anybody who owns a v2 Wills, do you ever wear it with a tshirt? I’m not big on layering, so I hope to be able to wear just a tshirt or long sleeve under.
                                      I’m curious what temperature range it can be worn comfortably in.

                                      Kyle, TX

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                                      • KarolK
                                        Karol
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                                        @Giles:

                                        Let's stop the conjecture, none of us know anything about what we are talking about.

                                        And listen to this instead…....

                                        https://ironcast.buzzsprout.com/1739026/8750050-iron-cast-s1-ep6-mike-elias-from-ship-john

                                        Thanks for adding nuance to the conversation @Giles

                                        Favorite:
                                        IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                        IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                        IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                        IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                                        • OaktaviaO
                                          Oaktavia
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                                          @Crease I dig the way yours fits and will try to plan my sizing similar to yours. Defo want to be able to layer with a hoodie or anything else. August 2024 seems so far awaaaaaaaay!!! One year and a half for me…

                                          IG: electricindigowizard

                                          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                          WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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                                          • CreaseC
                                            Crease
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                                            @Danimal506  I haven't worn mine this way yet, since its been pretty cold. I think the lack of breathability of the waxed canvas is the thing that would make this uncomfortable in the heat, sweat won't get out. In the cold it does a good job of keeping the heat in though.

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