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    • T
      Tmulltuous
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      Feels like a disgruntled employee that was expecting everything right away. It takes 5-10 years in most fields here before you're competent enough to demand a decent living.

      From a business perspective I remember him saying he orders the canvas from a textile supplier in New Jersey. Would guess its this one: http://www.fairfieldtextile.com/sounds/Stock_Items_prices_and_charges27.pdf
      Figure $100-150 in material then you pay experienced people $100-150 to make each jacket, shipping etc, and you're at  50% margins. Obviously the costs of the machines, workspace, tools aren't there, but that is probably what keeps the brand afloat.

      If it was just about money I imagine it would be more profitable for him to just license out the brand or sell a share on the low.

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      • steelworkerS
        steelworker
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        Mike suffered injuries from from a hatchet attack so maybe -PTSD. I don't know the guy, I can't say.

        Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
        Well, I have others.

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        • Salted RacerS
          Salted Racer
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          Good point @Tmulltuous indeed. I can imagine a young guy starting at SJ thinking there would be some glamor, given the brand.

          If I started at Iron Heart tomorrow, I doubt Alex is sending me to Japan right off the bat to have productive discussions with Haraki or the mills. You have to earn your way over the years.

          Certainly, when it comes down to it, I've never heard anyone that knows the industry say anything but good things about the Wills.

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          • Danimal506D
            Danimal506
            Haraki san Expert
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            I found out about Ship John years ago on Deans podcast. Seems pretty genuine to me. I’ll take my own opinions vs someone on tiktok.

            It’s very stressful running a business and paying for other people’s livelihoods. Not that I have ever owned a company. But I’d like to hear this dudes feelings after he starts his own company from scratch and has a dozen employees to take care of.

            https://m.soundcloud.com/deandelray/408-mike-elias-ship-john

            WTB:
            IHC-06
            IHSW-70 L or XL
            UHF Pillow Cover

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            • GilesG
              Giles
              IHUK Crew
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              Let's stop the conjecture, none of us know anything about what we are talking about.

              And listen to this instead…....

              https://ironcast.buzzsprout.com/1739026/8750050-iron-cast-s1-ep6-mike-elias-from-ship-john

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • Salted RacerS
                Salted Racer
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                Agreed—let’s not put the ‘ass’ in assumption here. Thanks for the links will give them a listen.

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                • mclaincauseyM
                  mclaincausey
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                  I have a Flint & Tender trucker made from one of Fairfiel's Martexin canvases, and it is a lovely fabric. It's far superior IMO to the Barbour and Belstaff I've had exposure to, less stinky and more subtle in its application and does a great job shedding water.

                  @Tmulltuous

                  Think it, be it.

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                  • Danimal506D
                    Danimal506
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                    On a positive my Wills should be here in a day or two!
                    I’m glad it’s cooling off here in Texas. Hopefully I can get some good work time in it!

                    WTB:
                    IHC-06
                    IHSW-70 L or XL
                    UHF Pillow Cover

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                    • CreaseC
                      Crease
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                      I got my Wills a month or so ago and I love the thing! It is super heavy duty and I’m glad I sized up to XXL regular. Feels just right with a larger hoodie inside and I can get it over an Iron heart western easily. Looking forward to this getting more worked in!  😎

                      Edit:
                      FYI, The XXL chest for me is about 2” bigger than my IH shirt size. Other measurements are about my normal size.

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                      • KarolK
                        Karol
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                        A great looking specimen @Crease !!

                        Favorite:
                        IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                        IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                        IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                        IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                        • Danimal506D
                          Danimal506
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                          Anybody who owns a v2 Wills, do you ever wear it with a tshirt? I’m not big on layering, so I hope to be able to wear just a tshirt or long sleeve under.
                          I’m curious what temperature range it can be worn comfortably in.

                          WTB:
                          IHC-06
                          IHSW-70 L or XL
                          UHF Pillow Cover

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                          • KarolK
                            Karol
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                            @Giles:

                            Let's stop the conjecture, none of us know anything about what we are talking about.

                            And listen to this instead…....

                            https://ironcast.buzzsprout.com/1739026/8750050-iron-cast-s1-ep6-mike-elias-from-ship-john

                            Thanks for adding nuance to the conversation @Giles

                            Favorite:
                            IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                            IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                            IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                            IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                            • OaktaviaO
                              Oaktavia
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                              @Crease I dig the way yours fits and will try to plan my sizing similar to yours. Defo want to be able to layer with a hoodie or anything else. August 2024 seems so far awaaaaaaaay!!! One year and a half for me…

                              IG: electricindigowizard

                              "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                              WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                              • CreaseC
                                Crease
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                                @Danimal506  I haven't worn mine this way yet, since its been pretty cold. I think the lack of breathability of the waxed canvas is the thing that would make this uncomfortable in the heat, sweat won't get out. In the cold it does a good job of keeping the heat in though.

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                                • CreaseC
                                  Crease
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                                  @Oaktavia:

                                  @Crease I dig the way yours fits and will try to plan my sizing similar to yours. Defo want to be able to layer with a hoodie or anything else. August 2024 seems so far awaaaaaaaay!!! One year and a half for me…

                                  Thanks Man!! Was kind of wishing they had something between XL and XXL but it worked out well I think. Good to have some room to move!

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                                    Tmulltuous
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                                    @Oaktavia I'm in the September '24 group. Will be happy to hear when you get yours!

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                                    • Danimal506D
                                      Danimal506
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                                      @Crease

                                      It does look great with a hoodie underneath!

                                      I’m thinking it’ll be a great camping jacket for the desert and mountains. And good for early morning working in, until I get too hot from moving around.

                                      WTB:
                                      IHC-06
                                      IHSW-70 L or XL
                                      UHF Pillow Cover

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                                      • OaktaviaO
                                        Oaktavia
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                                        @Tmulltuous:

                                        @Oaktavia I'm in the September '24 group. Will be happy to hear when you get yours!

                                        IG: electricindigowizard

                                        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                        WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                        • iamjustdannyI
                                          iamjustdanny
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                                          @Crease awesome fit dude!!!

                                          @Danimal506:

                                          Anybody who owns a v2 Wills, do you ever wear it with a tshirt? I’m not big on layering, so I hope to be able to wear just a tshirt or long sleeve under.
                                          I’m curious what temperature range it can be worn comfortably in.

                                          I can chime in. I do wear this jacket with just a t-shirt and I'm good. If I really wanted/needed to, I can definitely wear with a hoodie or an IH UHF western.

                                          Picture I posted on page 54, I wearing just a t-shirt with the jacket.

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                                          • nonikesN
                                            nonikes
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                                            @Danimal506, I wear mine with just a tee, like you plan, and it's more than enough to keep me warm in the high 30s/low 40s.  although, admittedly, I run hot af.

                                            but i;ve put it to the test out in joshua tree, which kinda, sorta approximates TX temps, me thinks…

                                            hope this helps

                                            "Have a nice day in your favourite jeans!"

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