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    • MizmazzleM
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      @Tago-Mago haha. How many more mistakes until they just tell me not to go back??

      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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      • goosehdG
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        @Mizmazzle I think they like you too much for that…

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • GraemeG
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          Last time I was in SF, I think that it was nearly three years ago, I remember a pet shop having an option to tip on the till. I also recall accidentally tipping for buying a couple of bags of coffee beans!

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          • IkeapartyI
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            @Graeme its getting pretty out of hand in Canada, default tip option at the liquor store is 18%, 20% and 25%, everywhere from Subway to Starbucks to Bakeries have tip options here now and it's usually either 15, 20, 25 or even in some cases its 20, 25, 30.

            Everyone says its because Square and Toast don't give the option to skip it, but I have had food where they use Square and they offer way lower tip options. I do wonder if you tip at a liquor store or whatever, where does that money go? It always feels to me they are just asking me "are you willing to pay more for what your buying?" when I see the option and received 0 assistance or anything.

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            • GilesG
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              Tipping in a shop?

              Fuck right off..

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • IkeapartyI
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                @Giles yeah, they are basically just preying on people who dont want to hit no tip, they have this giant ipad where you touch one of the three buttons or you hit no tip and they are standing there looking at you, I imagine the employees dont expect it or care but the whole setup is just uncomfortable and alot of people end up tipping.

                The whole other crazy thing is that the preset tip options include the tax in the calculation, so your tipping on the sales tax as well, small amount but really adds up after years.

                CBC has done alot of content about it but this is the most recent:
                https://www.cbc.ca/news/marketplace/tipping-marketplace-1.7395871

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                • MizmazzleM
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                  @goosehd damn this sparking personality.

                  In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                  • J
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                    @Ikeaparty I hate the “Screen Pressure” especially in establishments where the transaction consists of you taking something off a shelf and then going up to the register to pay for it. I just hit No and don’t feel bad about it.

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                    • EdHE
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                      My dad until recently worked in F&B in Dubai; he retired a few months back. Anyway, the custom in Dubai since Covid is that you scan a QR code on your table once you've finished your meal to be taken to a website that presents your itemised receipt and through which you can pay. My dad told me that when they introduced a tipping suggestion - options were 5%, 8% (auto selected/suggested), 10%, or other amount - and around 60% of people go with the suggested tip of 8%. He said that the company he worked for put those tips into a separate account that was paid pro-rata to all restaurant staff according to their hours. Staff on average saw their take-home go up by ~30% in an average month. My dad also said that splitting tips fairly among all staff is far better than a cash-on-the-table system, as it leads to less competition between front-of-house staff for the more lucrative shifts where you can expect more covers, and therefore a more cohesive work environment.

                      Take the dive...

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                      • I
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                        @EdH that sounds a sensible system, but probably far too sensible to catch on over here!

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                        • BrianB
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                          A part of the company I work for has a partnership agreement with a company that can work out tips via card that are given and distribute them across the various front and back of house staff, it’s quite a clever bit of tech and has helped one of our biggest customers from delivering a lot of cash once a week to various venues to be distributed and also cut down on the 2 full time staff to calculate it each week

                          I mentioned before that tipping here isn’t a big thing but the eastern states here are embracing it with more international visitors

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                          • MattM
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                            It’s weird that people from elsewhere stress about it. It’s so natural for us. I do not tip just because someone has it on their payment screen. I tip for the traditional items. Restaurants, barber, Ubers. No to carry out or counter service. Absolutely. Big No at sporting events or concert venues. They should be ashamed to ask for a tip on a $20 beer.

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                            • goosehdG
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                              One of the things I miss about using cash. Paper money went back in the pocket and coins went as a tip. Then again, you used to get a beer for under $5 at most bars so the tips could add up quick in a night.

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • EdHE
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                                Yeah, you can't just say "keep the change" without choking up a little when a couple of drinks requires you to pull out a twenty.

                                Take the dive...

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                                • jordanscollectedJ
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                                  @EdH go to a stadium or fair here and a couple drinks will have you pulling out a $50

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                                  • louisboscoL
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                                    if tipping wasn't a thing, then what are the thoughts of establishments doing a service charge?

                                    "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                    • chrisjohnnickC
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                                      I find it gross when they include the mandatory "service charge" as a line item on the bill. I'd rather they just increase the prices of the menu items by the same % amount and say no tipping. Then at least you'd be able to see the prices and plan accordingly with your budget.

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                                      • louisboscoL
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                                        I think it's usually countries with no tipping culture as the debate is usually between service charge or tipping.

                                        in singapore, they do service charge plus gst which are 10% + 9%. so any restaurant you go to that advertises ++, you'd know its that price plus 19%. the marketing then gets you in the door

                                        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                        • chrisjohnnickC
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                                          On a similar rant, when I had my store in downtown Nashville we would get people all the time from other countries that were very confused about sales tax. We'd have something with a tag that said $100 on it and they come to the register with a $100 bill in hand, and it would ring up $109.25. They were understandably confused and sometimes frustrated. I totally get it. I was amazing when we were visiting somewhere (think it was France?) and it was nice just paying the total price that was on the sales tag.

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                                          • jordanscollectedJ
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                                            @chrisjohnnick It's BS. Minneapolis as a city has implemented the 20% service charge and then ask for a tip on top.

                                            I am a trained chef and I would hate to work in a restaurant kitchen now, and I would really hate to be a server.

                                            My wife and I avoid restaurants at all costs these days. We simply don't go out to eat for entertainment or because we are short on time or too tired to cook. Those are salad nights now.

                                            IMO the industry is in huge trouble, but there are still tons of people who use food as escapism, and restaurants (dining in and of course Door Dash) tick that box even if they bitch about the tipping culture soon after.

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