SEXIH25-CPO - Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim CPO Shirt

[Bobcat Sig]

@Snafu Interesting. I'm only just now noticing these discrepancies for measurements as I wade deeper into this denim affliction.

I recently bought a pair of Samurai jeans from SE and their measurements were too big by several inches, in the waist, especially. Then I picked on fellow denimheads using Blue Owl's measurements as a reference that typically holds true. Fortunately, I was able to exchange for a pair that I think will fit; they show up today.

So then what's the discrepancy in measurement? Is it where the measurements are taken on the garments? How they are taken? I'm curious.

[Alex]

@Bobcat-Sig different methods, different people, different attention to detail. So many things involved. There is no 'right' way, but if you find someone that is consistent, and you can replicate their measurements, then you are sorted

[goosehd]

Well stated!!

[VegaS10]

@Alex, I ran into this exact issue ordering a pair of 634-21OD. I needed a measurement of 34 on the waist. Their size 34 measured at 33, while their size 36 had a measurement of 34. I knew this was wrong. Their measurements for the waist (where I mainly focus on), were different by over an inch. The way they measure the waist makes zero sense and allows for major discrepancies.

Thankfully, I referenced the IH site, discovered the size I needed and ordered from SE.

I know my sizing in Work/Western UHFs, Type III jackets, N1s, and most cuts, but the CPOs can be tricky....and if the measurements are as wonky as my previous experience, I may skip this all together, as they don't take any returns of any kind.

[CosmoSix5]

@Snafu this makes sense to me as, I take 1" off of IHUKs chest measurements. so seeing this info we're in the .5" threshold.

[J-IV]

@Oaktavia roll it. It’s a loaded dice anyways

[deadendpro]

@Alex has it right. Can confirm that at least 2 weeks ago SESF had the goods. And boy are they

[lolnah]

New pic of the OD fabric.
Obviously not the CPO but the same fabric.

[Oaktavia]

Wellp I was just telling this to Mark but I think I have finally decided the OD CPO is what I'll be snagging. Here is my thought process: I have the Mad Black 25oz which is its own OD mystery, the 22oz OD T3 using sulphur dye method, plus adding this one which uses the direct dye method will complete the overdye trifecta in my collection.

At first, the information regarding this new OD method yields a denim that is more resistant to fade was a turn off for me. But now, it has presented itself in my mind as a fade challenge. It will still fade, but apparently more stubbornly, so bring it the feck on y'all.

[dinobarnesberlin]

why would they burn a perfectly good shirt like that? #SMFH

[J-IV]

@Oaktavia they said the same thing about the 21oz denim back in the day. How “stubborn” it was. But us forum folk are a different breed. Like you said, it will fade. Fade it must

[Oaktavia]

@J-IV I also find that it will be fun to see the progress of others as they wear theirs. Mine will be on ice for a while. I am preoccupied with a fade queue at the mo'.

[catdad1]

@Oaktavia ... There's a 22oz sulphur dyed T3..? Well there's the next item to hunt!! Thanks!

[Oaktavia]

@catdad1 yes and it was/is glorious. I just got lucky and found one in my size for sale here on the b/s/t list. AFAIK that denim isn't being made anymore.

[freepickin]

@Oaktavia Yours is a beast. No, not the right word, yours is a goddamn leviathan. Seems like the closest we'll ever get to a 25oz jacket. Never say never though I guess (a fella can dream)

[Daniel San]

looks awesome and pretty slubby if you ask me

[Giles]

@Oaktavia said in SEXIH25-CPO - Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim CPO Shirt:

AFAIK that denim isn't being made anymore.

Correct. It was originally made for a Pronto Collab. But we had to make a shit-load more denim than they needed, so we took the balance and made TIII's out of it.....

[Jakederoche]

@Giles I had a 22oz type three modified but got lost. Was my favorite jacket. Will the 22oz ever be made again or was it discontinued likely for good?

[Giles]

The denim was specifically made for Pronto. Whilst that does not necessarily mean it wont be made again, I suspect that given production constraints, not just in the mills, but especially in the "heavy ounce" sewing factory, increasing fabric/cut type variants is not a good thing.

[Jakederoche]

@Giles sounds hopeful at some point! Thank you