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    Giles
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    No, it's because Haraki and Tom decided to get rid of it because of the cost. They did not ask us for our input unfortunately.........@Alex has lobbied for its return.

    But one thing that you need to realise about the Japanese physche, is that westerners are very rarely right. This was best epitomised by a friend who started a brand and had some jeans made in Japan. He specced them with infinite detail, when the sample was delivered it was completely different. Upon cross examination, the Japanese workshop owner told him that they had ignored the written sizing spec and made them to a pattern that he really meant to specify.

    For a time, said friend and I talked about writing a book together. The title of which was going to be something along the lines of The Challenges of Working in Japan. The sub title I came up with was "If they made what you asked them to make, they must have misheard you".....

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      Matt
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      I sure do hate that interior print. Stupid words. 🤮

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        Oaktavia
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        @Matt said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

        I sure do hate that interior print. Stupid words. 🤮

        Ahahah

        IG: electricindigowizard

        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

        WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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          Oaktavia
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          @Giles
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          @Giles I'd read that book

          IG: electricindigowizard

          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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            mantradeeksha
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            Joined: 28 Dec 2024

            Thank you very much !

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              Nocturama
              Haraki san Prodigy
              Joined: 1 Jan 2023

              Getting fed up with cold legs when out with the dog - am I right in thinking whipcord is the best material for cold-weather trousers/pants (within the IH offerings), and that the Division Road variant are the slimmest legged option? Wouldn’t necessarily opt for cargoes, but I am coming at this from 555s…

              #JustStopCrocs

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                goosehd
                Mod Squad
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                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                @Nocturama I love the whipcord for cold weather and have the cargo version. I can not wear them in warmer weather though.

                As stated many times before, that really depends on a persons tolerance of hot and cold temperatures.

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                  Fadez
                  啓蒙家
                  Joined: 9 Nov 2011

                  I have a random fabric question for y’all today. I’ve noticed that synthetic and natural fibers interact differently with liquids. Does anyone have a resource / know why… synthetic materials differ? (My thoughts go to thread/fiber size and it being able to be smaller) also why do different liquids (water, oil, alcohol) interact differently with cotton fabrics?

                  A mix of curiosity and chemistry maybe 🤔 For denim science!!! 👖🔬🥼 Thank you friends

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                    mitzimeow
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 13 Jan 2025

                    I got my first pair of Iron Heart jeans recently, an old womens discontinued tomboy pair I was happy to snag off ebay for the cheap-ish! I really love these jeans and wish they were still in production- but now, for my question. My pants are a very close fit for me, and are very snug around the waist. The denim is obviously very stiff, the 21 oz, and sometimes i feel like the waistband is cutting into my sides. I have had them for four months now, and havent washed them yet, i think for now i would prefer not to, but i wonder if anyone has any advice on how to soften the waistband up a bit?

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                      popvulture
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                      @mitzimeow
                      Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                      @mitzimeow people on here (myself included) will probably tell you that the 21oz is the softest denim IH makes, aside from maybe the 16oz slub. If you wash them, they might shrink a bit but they'll stretch back out to where they are now with just a couple wears.

                      You can stretch out the waist with a pant stretcher like the one I'll post below. I bought one and it was well worth it, as it's helped me get a little extra in the waists of a couple pairs of jeans that were a little too tight for me. I haven't done it myself, but I believe you can get even more stretch if you use the stretcher while the jeans are wet.

                      https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Stretcher-Adjustable-Stretch-30-YSKC001/dp/B0D2Q6FQDF/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=5ZEOQWNWPFE1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.d0f57AKW1ICzCy8-TRuIwF7sgOFZ9KpGDxtAETly0njT_H5T0BCol8GT3AncKFXzCv9cJrY5p4jSl3pUOqxv0XyS_WQTamltRmaGt-b792d8PyR4N4aOVo2Vhxc4RHFXL6Al0_ICdcYhCD7UNHJPfrhAs1xa7kc_D25R2YIdznraKAaDowyAhMSqyvGbvKTo7rUo2BYnBTKQB8IfRL3z9c1-kMZb-nvlEuxnJu_5fjd7MwpDwI8tzYByghVd0AJ1bBZdiLtAlaRlj8kzxsyXQoAiukYU8omjiuYb2PsMHzQ.iMBkJZFFzGIsvksuIbvKmjjcXGVFCoMEjIuOMTI-0YM&dib_tag=se&keywords=pants+stretcher&qid=1736783051&sprefix=pants+stretcher%2Caps%2C335&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

                      PS sorry for that big ugly link. You can also just look up "pants stretcher" on Amazon and you'll get quite a lot of options. Typicall the wooden semicircle bits with the adjustable threaded piece in between.

                      WTB
                      IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                      Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        @popvulture
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        @popvulture said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                        people on here (myself included) will probably tell you that the 21oz is the softest denim IH makes

                        The Tomboys are made out of non-selvedge, which is not nearly as soft as the selvedge 21oz

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          popvulture
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                          @Giles
                          Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                          @Giles Ah, right on! I saw the tomboy part but didn't realize that was an actual model. So it's non selvedge 21oz, or another weight? Totally different fabric? I'm intrigued.

                          WTB
                          IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                          Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                            jordanscollected
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                            @mitzimeow
                            Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                            @mitzimeow I agree with Pop that the pant stretcher is the way to go for you. I sized my 888xhs wrong and bought them an inch too small in the waist for where they sit on my body and the pant stretcher was the solution for me. I got 1" or more in the waist. I initially put them on the stretcher for 2 days to get the initial stretch and then kept them on the stretcher all the time between wears.

                            If you go this route. stretch them with the pants fully buttoned and made sure the top button is touching the wooden stretcher. That is you stretch front to back and not side to side. this will help keep from popping a button.

                            start by stretching them nice and firm and then let them sit for a few hours. Then give them another small crank to get some more stretch. repeat a few times but you can overdo it and pop the button, so use care.

                            If you want to get additional stretch by getting the denim wet (but you don't want to wash them, you can dip just the waistband in water till it's soaked and take the steps above.

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                              Giles
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                              @popvulture
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              @popvulture said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                              So it's non selvedge 21oz,

                              Yep.

                              Same denim as this:

                              https://www.ironheart.co.uk/jackets/ih-527j.html

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                Oaktavia
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                                @Giles
                                Joined: 12 Jun 2019

                                @Giles is it the same denim used for the IHC-06?

                                IG: electricindigowizard

                                "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                  Giles
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                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  Good question. I am not 100% sure, but I have always believed the IHC-06 to be selvedge.

                                  You are probably in a better position than me to check it it looks the same or differs, becxause I gave my cap away years ago.....

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    popvulture
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                                    That's cool. I dig the lighter blue, almost sort of a Lee or Wrangler vibe.

                                    WTB
                                    IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                                    Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                                      Oaktavia
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                                      @Giles
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                                      The weft does not appear to be beige to me. Looks more like white if that helps.

                                      IG: electricindigowizard

                                      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                        Giles
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                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        Not a lot.....

                                        The weft on the selvedge 21oz used to be white, Haraki changed it to beige some time after I started working with him, because he thought it would be better for my market.. So it could be old stock....

                                        What does the face feel/look like? The non-selvedge is super smooth compared to the selvedge.....

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Oaktavia
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                                          @Giles
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                                          It feels pretty smooth and even. No irregularities that I can see.

                                          IG: electricindigowizard

                                          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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