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    What do you consider "raw" denim to mean?

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    • UnTuckedU
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      This is the part of our "hobby" that I stay away from, lol!

      In search of:
      IHV-04, med.
      IHSH-185, large
      IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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      • DionD
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        I think soaking raw denim is part of the fun/experience and it's great to see how a pair evolves after it has touched water and accommodates your body. I never had any issues with loomstate denim at all and if a pair fits prior to washing it will do so after it's been shrunk.

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        • GilesG
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          I'm talking to Haraki about making a new raw (that is not washed, not sanforised, not anti skewed, not singed, not fucked around with in any way) denim….Watch this space.....

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • rocketR
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            rawr…

            rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

            It's all humbug, like everywhere
            R.I.P. Geo

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            • DionD
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              Super stoked and super excited!

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              • UnTuckedU
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                What are you considering for pre/post soak weights?

                In search of:
                IHV-04, med.
                IHSH-185, large
                IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
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                  I think I will try and go 16 or 18.  The easiest route is to use the vintage 16 and/or 18 and not sanforise or wash) it…..

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • BroarkB
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                    New 16 oz. completely untreated and in the 888 cut.  😎

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                    • Matty123M
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                      Personally, I think of raw as loomstate. But there are A LOT of denim companies out there marketing “Raw”  Selvedge jeans that have been sanforized or treated in many ways. That confuses me. Who is to
                      Say they are wrong? But either way I get excited when I see the word raw and then bummed when I read the details.

                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                      • GilesG
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                        @Matty123:

                        Who is to Say they are wrong?

                        Me

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • Matty123M
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                          @Giles:

                          @Matty123:

                          Who is to Say they are wrong?

                          Me

                          Is there an industry standard?

                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                          • Megatron1505M
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                            @Giles:

                            @Matty123:

                            Who is to Say they are wrong?

                            Me

                            Me too, if it’s sanforised (at all) it is categorically not raw denim.

                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                            • Matty123M
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                              There should be. It’s like top grain leather is top grain leather. Raw denim should mean one thing.

                              Maybe so. Maybe not

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                              • DionD
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                                @Giles:

                                I think I will try and go 16 or 18.  The easiest route is to use the vintage 16 and/or 18 and not sanforise or wash) it…..

                                I was hoping for something in the range of 20+ oz to start with but it will be much more difficult to keep it unsanforized and stable, I guess.

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @Matty123:

                                  Is there an industry standard?

                                  No. Which is partially why I started this thread to see if there was a consensus on this forum. It seems there is. This makes me happy.

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                                  • Virginia Woolf
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                                  • madmondayM
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                                    @Matty123 "raw denim" does mean one thing to people who are ingrained in and speak the language (at least on this forum).

                                    to the casual shopper the term raw denim tends to be what ever the manufacture is peddling that day to grab the customer.

                                    look at it like eggs, you got a raw egg, you got the 1 minute egg that is super runny, 3 minute egg little less runny, hard boiled egg, etc.

                                    they all eggs but you know

                                    off topic but I always am

                                    again great topic @neph93  as there is a super easy and clear answer to the initial question but it can branch off into so many other things based on each persons experience

                                    head high, middle finger higher

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                                    • UnTuckedU
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                                      This is why I wear workpants… no confusion, lol

                                      In search of:
                                      IHV-04, med.
                                      IHSH-185, large
                                      IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                      • madmondayM
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                                        @neph93:

                                        my point was that great denim doesn’t have to be raw to be excellent

                                        good point but not easy to put into a quick sound bite to get consumers to spend their money by the old guard selling fast fashion to consumers and are just trying to turn a profit

                                        as consumers become more educated and the rise of conscious consumerism with brands like Patagonia i think it will change, slowly, but change none the less

                                        what is also funny is that every one has a voice, which is a good thing, but you get a lot of misinformed people making arguments that do not hold water.

                                        you would not argue about the color or fruit orange, since it is a universal fact it should be the same with the term  raw denim, but you know

                                        I mentioned oranges and eggs, I am hungry time to get some grub

                                        head high, middle finger higher

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                                        • Matty123M
                                          Matty123
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                                          @madmonday:

                                          @Matty123 "raw denim" does mean one thing to people who are ingrained in and speak the language (at least on this forum).

                                          to the casual shopper the term raw denim tends to be what ever the manufacture is peddling that day to grab the customer.

                                          look at it like eggs, you got a raw egg, you got the 1 minute egg that is super runny, 3 minute egg little less runny, hard boiled egg, etc.

                                          they all eggs but you know

                                          Yeah that’s true. Thanks Monday

                                          But for me my egg? First I break the egg on to a fine mesh screen and get all the watery clear whites gone.
                                          Then 185F water for 4 minutes. Gently stiring so it doesn’t stick to the bottom. Take that shit out and bam! Perfect.  Poached 185f egg

                                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                          • gaseousclayG
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                                            @manufc10:

                                            Most people don't like the unpredictable nature of loomstate, therefore underrated IMO.

                                            I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate. I like the guesswork being taken out of having to figure out sizing/shrinkage, especially if you're dropping big $.

                                            WTB:
                                            IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                            IHSH-19

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