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    • neph93N
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      @WellWinn:

      @shubharamani:

      This thread is for people who wish to pose nagging questions (hopefully related to denim, but doesn't have to be) – in hopes of seeking an answer.

      Does wabash fade the same as other IH 12 OZ denim and what makes the shirts with metal buttons better?  Thx.

      The IH Wabash is a 12oz twill weave, but not the same material as the IHSH-33’s. It is a serge rather than denim. It fades with higher contrast and more quickly than denim 12oz shirts.

      Aluminium cat’s eye buttons were used on the original IHSH-68’s. They are no longer sourceable. Regular melamine buttons replaced them for a while. New metal buttons are now available, so you can get both. They both do what buttons are supposed to, so it’s pretty much down to personal preference.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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      • W
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        Great thorough answer, thx!

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        • motojoboboM
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          Wow @neph93 ! Solid, succinct and simple answer there…you must be one of the favorite teachers at school with such clear and no-nonsense, no-fluff answers. I admire that  😎 😎

          Super well done buddy!

          The journey is the objective.

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          • neph93N
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            @motojobobo:

            such clear and no-nonsense, no-fluff answers.

            Super well done buddy!

            I must be getting better in my old age…Used to be 90% fluff [emoji38]

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

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            • SeulS
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              Swastikas in these new Calee shorts pics kinda took me by surprise… Is this a good idea?..  😶

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                Many would like to “reclaim” the symbol for its native or Buddhist origins. I for one am unable to divorce it from the hatred of Nazis, and find it too confusing to try and parse intention or origin.

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                • chrisjohnnickC
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                  Oh man, no that is not a good idea. Not in any way.

                  Wants List:
                  IHSH-20-Red, XL
                  IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                  IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                  IHSW-45 Black, M
                  IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                  IH-777S-SB size 32
                  IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                  • DmartD
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                    Not a good idea, it will get confused…

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                    • jerkulesJ
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                      I think, given that the other tattoos are traditional Buddhist symbols and Thai flag etc., the tattoo is clearly also a symbol for Buddhism. You see them everywhere in temples in Thailand and other SE Asian countries.

                      I totally understand people’s aversion to that particular symbol. However, the thought of a Buddhist or Thai person not being able to proudly display their ancient symbol of their religion/country feels wrong. Especially considering the symbol was appropriated by racist white Europeans. As a white European, I’d never consider it my place to go around telling a Buddhist to cover or remove that symbol to protect my sensitivity to that symbol. I completely understand the need to take that symbol back. Anyway, just my 2cents.

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                      • AnesthetistA
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                        Well said [mention]jerkules [/mention]

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                        • GilesG
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                          The photo is of Johnny, who is Thai and a Buddhist…..

                          It's not up to me or @Alex to censor things that are important to others….

                          The symbol is used a lot by native American Indians (if I am actually allowed to call them that in the Woke world we live in), and I wouldn't dream of telling them to buff it out of their silver jewellery because it offended my privileged white sensibilities.....

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • CutlasshoundC
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                            @jerkules:

                            I think, given that the other tattoos are traditional Buddhist symbols and Thai flag etc., the tattoo is clearly also a symbol for Buddhism. You see them everywhere in temples in Thailand and other SE Asian countries.

                            I totally understand people’s aversion to that particular symbol. However, the thought of a Buddhist or Thai person not being able to proudly display their ancient symbol of their religion/country feels wrong. Especially considering the symbol was appropriated by racist white Europeans. As a white European, I’d never consider it my place to go around telling a Buddhist to cover or remove that symbol to protect my sensitivity to that symbol. I completely understand the need to take that symbol back. Anyway, just my 2cents.

                            Well said mate!

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                            • OaktaviaO
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                              Well said @jerkules and @Giles

                              The swastika appears in many forms of geometric patterns in many countries in contemporary contexts. Lately, it has appeared intertwined into intricate tattoo designs in parts of Europe and Asia.

                              I find it to be a visually beautiful symbol in the right contexts, not just the rigid, angular version that we sometimes recognize as a symbol of Nazism. It is a shame those bozos couldn't be creative enough to make up their own symbol.

                              Here are some images I would like to share:

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                              "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                              WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                              • neph93N
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                                @Giles:

                                The photo is of Johnny, who is Thai and a Buddhist…..

                                It's not up to me or @Alex to censor things that are important to others….

                                I wouldn't dream of telling them to buff it out of their silver jewellery because it offended my privileged white sensibilities.....

                                This is so woke [emoji1]

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                • MattM
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                                  Ah, the gentle swastika.

                                  I’d like to think that in an alternate universe the Nazis chose this little guy instead…

                                  And they all lived happily ever after.

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                                  • MattM
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                                    Not so sure about this guy though…

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                                    • Daniel SanD
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                                      No guys this is not what it looks like  😃
                                      Something I always wanted to know is why the water at first soak turns yellow/ orange . Normally I would expect it to become blue. This time it is very intensiv. Soaked my new IHSH- 33 ind .

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Sizing agent, usually starch…..

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • jordanscollectedJ
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                                          and if it's yellow, it's most likely corn derived as opposed to rice or tapioca.

                                          Here's a recent starch cook up demo I did at work (there is a yellowish hue to the corn version). waxy corn starch (higher amylopectin) on the left, and various rice and tapioca starches on the right.

                                          world tours:
                                          888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                                          Mad Red x2
                                          Wabidashery

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                                          • Daniel SanD
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                                            Ah ok 👍
                                            Thank you Giles !
                                            Do you have internet on Pilgrim?  😃

                                            @jordanscollected
                                            Now that’s interesting, never thought they use that for starch 🤔
                                            And the drink in the back ? Whiskey Cola starch 😄?

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