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    • MattM
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      Should I take a Touring Test?

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      • NickN
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        @mclaincausey said in Unpopular opinions:

        @Matt yeah we are that much worse now even than that. Pretty wild, unprecedented times.

        And I disagree that space exploration is a waste of time, or that we can’t do that and other things at the same time.

        The hoax argument falls apart if you just do the tiniest amount of research and critical thinking. Multiple contemporary parties, including enemies, were observing the whole thing live at the time. How would they have fooled the telescopes and radar? Why are there still rovers up there that continue to be observed by probes? Etc. it’s seriously flat earth territory if you really look at the facts.

        Aren't most conspiracy theories about the moon landings based on the suggestion that NASA had no footage so PR suggested they re-shoot everything back in a studio?

        Pretty sure with the amount of people involved it would be hard to keep a hoax a secret - esp something of this magnitude.

        I do enjoy people arguing about it. Esp flat earth. Watching a YouTube video does not give you the authority to deny actual science from scientists. Not sure if I should laugh or just hold my head in the palm of my hands.

        < something witty TBC here >

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        • seawolfS
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          @Giles Astonishing! That's quite a feat.

          “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

          @zeebeeleather

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          • seawolfS
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            @Nick I love when flat-earthers conduct experiments and prove the earth is round by accident.

            “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

            @zeebeeleather

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            • ARNCA
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              @Matt isn’t that what you did in the Airstream (assuming that isn’t part of the conspiracy)?

              “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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              • MattM
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                I guess we’ll never really know for sure.

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                • Tago MagoT
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                  @ARNC None if us is crazy enough to come up with @Matt's stuff

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                  • ARNCA
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                    @Tago-Mago I think I’m convinced!

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                    • goosehdG
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                      You guys are missing one important element in this discussion. @Matt lived in New Mexico for a period of time - Fact. Aliens love New Mexico - Fact. Aliens love to perform experiments on humans - Fact.

                      Matt saw a reason to leave New Mexico - Fact.

                      I’ll let you guys come up with your own conclusions.

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        @seawolf that documentary Behind the Curve had me shouting at the TV. “Oh. Wow. The experiment supports the earth being round. The experiment must be wrong!”

                        Real geniuses with a complete grasp of the scientific method 🙄

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • GilesG
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                          @seawolf I first found out about the Oxcart when reading about the frankly astonishing Brian Shul...

                          https://theaviationist.com/2023/05/24/the-sled-driver-has-flown-west/

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • GilesG
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                            Unpopular opinion - They don't make them like that any more....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              @Giles I really wish they would reprint some of his books.

                              Here is a shot from one of them that used to be a phone wallpaper for me. A coffee table book including such photos and details about the plane would be great.

                              SR-71 and pilots_Original.jpeg

                              No question Lockheed skunkworks managed to keep many projects hidden from the public eye, including U2 and the F117. Impressive, though doesn’t lend credence to the moon landing being a hoax.

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • pechelmanP
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                                slightly off thread topic but on topic for the last few posts, if you have any interest in the SR-71 and havent read it, I'd highly recommend Ben Rich's book on Skunk Works.

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                                • Tago MagoT
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                                  @Matt I googled Matt-Bot. I wish I hadn't

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                                  • popvultureP
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                                    @Nick said in Unpopular opinions:

                                    I do enjoy people arguing about it. Esp flat earth. Watching a YouTube video does not give you the authority to deny actual science from scientists. Not sure if I should laugh or just hold my head in the palm of my hands.

                                    Flat-Earth belief is really peak moronitude, the uncut cocaine version of stupidity. I feel like I need to develop a checklist to present to these folks.

                                    1. Go outside. I know it's hard, but do it.
                                    2. Find a wide open space and pick an object far in the distance.
                                    3. Walk forward and notice how said object appears to rise out of nowhere as you approach.
                                    4. Ponder a curve.
                                    5. Go back home and read anything but your phone. Preferably a book.

                                    WTB
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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      It’s just so easily falsified, you really have to be mentally ill or trolling not to accept what was obvious even to the ancients about our planet.

                                      Another obvious falsification is the earth’s shadow on the moon. Why is it always a perfect circle? Why aren’t we getting weird oblong projections?

                                      Reminds me of a meme I saw. Something to the effect of expecting flying cars by now when a kid but instead having to rage “THE EARTH IS ROUND” at morons.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        @pechelman said in Unpopular opinions:

                                        I'd highly recommend Ben Rich's book on Skunk Works.

                                        Ordered, as I am fascinated...

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          Same found a used hardcover. I have a PDF of Sled Driver but would love a hard cover of that. It would be a fun coffee table book.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Yeah, I want Sled Driver too.....

                                            Hard cover £377 😧

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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