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    • RobeOfTheMagiR
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      I think the Sowiets would have made it very clear to the rest of the world if the moon landing had been faked. Since they did not do such a thing, it's very safe to say it is real.

      (Is that the correct use of the conditional III?)

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        @Matt yeah we are that much worse now even than that. Pretty wild, unprecedented times.

        And I disagree that space exploration is a waste of time, or that we can’t do that and other things at the same time.

        The hoax argument falls apart if you just do the tiniest amount of research and critical thinking. Multiple contemporary parties, including enemies, were observing the whole thing live at the time. How would they have fooled the telescopes and radar? Why are there still rovers up there that continue to be observed by probes? Etc. it’s seriously flat earth territory if you really look at the facts.

        Think it, be it.

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        • chrisjohnnickC
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          Speaking of flat earth..

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          • popvultureP
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            Bless this thread

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            • seawolfS
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              @Matt There were around 400K people involved in putting a man on the moon. A conspiracy that large would never be successful. Try keeping a secret with 100 people and see how it goes.

              “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

              @zeebeeleather

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              • ARNCA
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                Now I think of it, I have only met @Matt at events where copious refreshments were available. Should I be rethinking whether he exists? Was he invented by someone at IH and the myth is reinforced at every party?

                “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                • GilesG
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                  @seawolf said in Unpopular opinions:

                  A conspiracy that large would never be successful.

                  Not nearly as large an undertaking, but the CIA's Blackbird A-12 Oxcart was successfully hidden from the general public for decades....

                  I find that astonishing in itself.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Tago MagoT
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                    @ARNC @Matt is beyond the wildest imagination of anyone, so he has to be real

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                    • seawolfS
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                      @Giles said in Unpopular opinions:

                      Blackbird A-12 Oxcart

                      I'd never even heard of the A-12 Oxcart, but I knew about the Blackbird. Just found this about both of them. https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/oxcart-vs-blackbird-do-you-know-the-difference/

                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                      @zeebeeleather

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                      • ARNCA
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                        @Tago-Mago but how do I know that mods aren’t committed to propagating the Matt myth? 🤣

                        “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                        • MattM
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                          I guess the moon landing could be real. I don’t really care. Interesting insights though everyone… carry on.

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                          • MattM
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                            @ARNC like I’m a Matt Bot?

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                            • GilesG
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                              @seawolf said in Unpopular opinions:

                              @Giles said in Unpopular opinions:

                              Blackbird A-12 Oxcart

                              I'd never even heard of the A-12 Oxcart, but I knew about the Blackbird. Just found this about both of them. https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/oxcart-vs-blackbird-do-you-know-the-difference/

                              Yeah, the SR-71 was what was in the public eye, but the arguably better Oxcart remained hidden.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • MattM
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                                How would I know?

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                                • MattM
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                                  Should I take a Touring Test?

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                                  • NickN
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                                    @mclaincausey said in Unpopular opinions:

                                    @Matt yeah we are that much worse now even than that. Pretty wild, unprecedented times.

                                    And I disagree that space exploration is a waste of time, or that we can’t do that and other things at the same time.

                                    The hoax argument falls apart if you just do the tiniest amount of research and critical thinking. Multiple contemporary parties, including enemies, were observing the whole thing live at the time. How would they have fooled the telescopes and radar? Why are there still rovers up there that continue to be observed by probes? Etc. it’s seriously flat earth territory if you really look at the facts.

                                    Aren't most conspiracy theories about the moon landings based on the suggestion that NASA had no footage so PR suggested they re-shoot everything back in a studio?

                                    Pretty sure with the amount of people involved it would be hard to keep a hoax a secret - esp something of this magnitude.

                                    I do enjoy people arguing about it. Esp flat earth. Watching a YouTube video does not give you the authority to deny actual science from scientists. Not sure if I should laugh or just hold my head in the palm of my hands.

                                    < something witty TBC here >

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                                    • seawolfS
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                                      @Giles Astonishing! That's quite a feat.

                                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                      @zeebeeleather

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                                      • seawolfS
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                                        @Nick I love when flat-earthers conduct experiments and prove the earth is round by accident.

                                        “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                        @zeebeeleather

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                                        • ARNCA
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                                          @Matt isn’t that what you did in the Airstream (assuming that isn’t part of the conspiracy)?

                                          “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                                          • MattM
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                                            I guess we’ll never really know for sure.

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