Brexshit

[EdH]

@Tago-Mago

To immediately counter myself... a single molecule of H2O is still water, but wetness is an emergent property of there being a sufficient number of H2O molecules in one place to reduce friction between two other objects.

See what I mean! I can't help thinking this way, it's awful.

[Tago Mago]

@EdH you forgot to take pressure and temperature into consideration. Depending on these, a substance could thermodynamically exist as solid, liquid or gas, or even all at once in equilibrium

[goosehd]

drinking with you guys should be fun

[mclaincausey]

@EdH said in Brexshit:

@Tago-Mago

To immediately counter myself... a single molecule of H2O is still water,

Is it though? In my mind “water” refers to the liquid state of H2O. You can’t have a liquid with a single molecule.

[Tago Mago]

I just wanted to thank everyone for this discussion, @EdH in particular for adding a totally different perspective and introducing a number of aspects, that I either wasn’t aware of or hadn’t considered. I still think Brexit was a bad idea

[IrishHeart]

@Tago-Mago agreed, except for the bit about water which has gone right over my head

[ARNC]

@IrishHeart it’s not good for water to go right over your head, at least not for a prolonged period

[IrishHeart]

@ARNC haha! Good observation, although at 6’4 it has to be pretty deep!

[louisbosco]

@Giles said in Brexshit:

AND, the result of the vote was advisory not mandatory.

this very point. it also would've career suicide for anyone to go "nah, we're not going to follow the referendum" and DC didn't want to be the person to invoke article 50 so he resigned and said some one else can deal with this..

[T4920]

On the subject of Brexit, from an IH business point of view, what was the biggest ramification that came about as a result of it?
And if any, what were the positives?

@Giles @Alex

[Giles]

Overnight, we did not just ship a package to The EU, we had to export it. So although there is a free trade agreement between The EU and Japan and a similar one between The UK and Japan, all non-UK-produced goods attract 12% duty, so upon entry into The EU, our shipments were subject to duty and also VAT on the sum of the declared price plus the duty. So we either shipped to EU and let the customer deal with that shit (something they had not had to do before) or ship and pay the duty and the tax ourselves, in both cases with the high probability that the shipping company would also charge us, or the customer additional "handling" fees. We elected to do the latter and shield the customer from the grief. Then if a customer needs to return the goods, there is no sensible way that we can claim a refund for the tax, the duty or additional fees. The single worst example being a customer who ordered 2 pairs of Wesco boots and returned both pairs - revenue zero, cost of sale €500.

No positives at all.

[T4920]

@Giles that sounds awful!
I assume that's how/why IH Germany came about, to serve the EU market whilst circumnavigating these export fees?

[Giles]

In part yes.