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    • EdHE
      EdH
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      @Giles said in Brexshit:

      Never take anything that I say as something I wholeheartedly believe in. I like taking a position and pushing it a little bit...

      Don't worry. One side-effect of my first degree being PPE (with most of it being philosophy options) and being surrounded by much smarter people than me is that I have a tendency to think that way myself and assume that everyone is testing their points by making them publicly.

      I have consequently developed a bad habit of prefacing most of my statements with "I think" when I talk. (My boss thinks I'm trying to be some combination of too-lawyerly, non-committal, and/or evasive all the time. I have to keep explaining that I'm always half-expecting a counter argument to every utterance I make, even if it's as obvious as "water is wet".)

      Take the dive...

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      • Tago MagoT
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        @EdH said in Brexshit:

        "water is wet"

        that's what they want you to believe, you fool!

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        • EdHE
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          @Tago-Mago

          To immediately counter myself... a single molecule of H2O is still water, but wetness is an emergent property of there being a sufficient number of H2O molecules in one place to reduce friction between two other objects.

          See what I mean! I can't help thinking this way, it's awful. 🤣

          Take the dive...

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          • Tago MagoT
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            @EdH you forgot to take pressure and temperature into consideration. Depending on these, a substance could thermodynamically exist as solid, liquid or gas, or even all at once in equilibrium

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            • goosehdG
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              drinking with you guys should be fun 🙂

              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                @EdH said in Brexshit:

                @Tago-Mago

                To immediately counter myself... a single molecule of H2O is still water,

                Is it though? In my mind “water” refers to the liquid state of H2O. You can’t have a liquid with a single molecule.

                Think it, be it.

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                • Tago MagoT
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                  I just wanted to thank everyone for this discussion, @EdH in particular for adding a totally different perspective and introducing a number of aspects, that I either wasn’t aware of or hadn’t considered. I still think Brexit was a bad idea 😉

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                  • I
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                    @Tago-Mago agreed, except for the bit about water which has gone right over my head 🙂

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                    • ARNCA
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                      @IrishHeart it’s not good for water to go right over your head, at least not for a prolonged period 😃

                      “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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                      • I
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                        @ARNC haha! Good observation, although at 6’4 it has to be pretty deep!

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                        • louisboscoL
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                          @Giles said in Brexshit:

                          AND, the result of the vote was advisory not mandatory.

                          this very point. it also would've career suicide for anyone to go "nah, we're not going to follow the referendum" and DC didn't want to be the person to invoke article 50 so he resigned and said some one else can deal with this..

                          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                          • T4920T
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                            On the subject of Brexit, from an IH business point of view, what was the biggest ramification that came about as a result of it?
                            And if any, what were the positives?

                            @Giles @Alex

                            “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                            • GilesG
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                              Overnight, we did not just ship a package to The EU, we had to export it. So although there is a free trade agreement between The EU and Japan and a similar one between The UK and Japan, all non-UK-produced goods attract 12% duty, so upon entry into The EU, our shipments were subject to duty and also VAT on the sum of the declared price plus the duty. So we either shipped to EU and let the customer deal with that shit (something they had not had to do before) or ship and pay the duty and the tax ourselves, in both cases with the high probability that the shipping company would also charge us, or the customer additional "handling" fees. We elected to do the latter and shield the customer from the grief. Then if a customer needs to return the goods, there is no sensible way that we can claim a refund for the tax, the duty or additional fees. The single worst example being a customer who ordered 2 pairs of Wesco boots and returned both pairs - revenue zero, cost of sale €500.

                              No positives at all.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • T4920T
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                                @Giles that sounds awful!
                                I assume that's how/why IH Germany came about, to serve the EU market whilst circumnavigating these export fees?

                                “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                • GilesG
                                  Giles
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                                  In part yes.

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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