Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?
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@Yoprst said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
We are talking about sufficient supply when there is a strong demand.
IH have talked about this many times on these pages, elsewhere in the forum, and on the Ironcast (podcast). Long story short, it is very hard to predict what will sell well and what won't.
The FW22 UHF shirts, for example, were heavily overstocked (partly by design as an experiment to see if they would sell out like previous years) with the result that they had a lot of stock that wouldn't shift even at a discount. (In the end, they overdyed the excess stock which rekindled some demand).
And you can't just re-run a seasonal item that sold out in minutes. Seasonal stuff is planned out well in advance so that raw material suppliers, factories, and retailers can all be aligned. If your factories are working on FW24 now and will then be moving onto SS25 as soon as they're done, when are you going to be able to ask them to go back to something from FW23 that sold well? Elevating something to continuous production status is fraught with risk and opportunity costs if you get that calculation wrong.
If you could design an algorithm that could perfectly predict demand (in any sphere) you'd certainly win a Nobel Prize in Economics and become very, very wealthy.
Take the dive...
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@Yoprst said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
shirt that has very attractive pattern
The 9oz Ombre pattern will probably make a comeback in future SS seasons, but if you can't wait, there are some from SS23 left in Blue (and less size-choice available in Green)
Blue western here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/tops/IHSH-348-IND.html
Take the dive...
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@EdH said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
If you could design an algorithm that could perfectly predict demand (in any sphere) you'd certainly win a Nobel Prize in Economics and become very, very wealthy.
Then I would buy at once the whole IH stuff which is in my wish list
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@Yoprst The marketplace is really a great resource for items that we all missed on the initial release. Sometimes luck prevails and you find what you want immediately and then there a few items that we all still have hope for. The hunt never ends...
"I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)
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@EdH said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
@Yoprst said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
shirt that has very attractive pattern
The 9oz Ombre pattern will probably make a comeback in future SS seasons, but if you can't wait, there are some from SS23 left in Blue (and less size-choice available in Green)
Blue western here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/tops/IHSH-348-IND.html
Thanx for the tip, however the whole point for me was in that color combination. Yellow and Blue is one of the best colour match. Just like Red and Black colours. It's classic colour combination
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@goosehd said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
The hunt never ends...
Just like fishermen. It's not about fish it's about fishing itself
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@EdH said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
@popvulture said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
I was thinking it’d be cool if IH were to make a button down oxford
I had the same thought, but my inner monologue came back with "nah, thank your lucky stars they don't make oxfords, or you will go poor"
I find myself wearing button downs more in recent weeks, and have changed my mind.
Button down shirts with a single pocket, like the one that was done in the boss check, but in chambray would be awesome, I'd get one in white and one in a pale blue. (And, looking at the 283 thread, tuckable would be great.)
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@Giles said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
We do remakes and reruns of old classics from time to time, but we can't even keep decent stock levels of our constant items. Capacity is seriously limited so what we do make is a juggling game
Excuse me if my suggestion was trite or outrageous. Probably a bit of both since it was not well received and the subsequent discussion steered in a direction tangent to my post/thought:
IH currently makes new* seasonal items and re-runs "continuous" items. I think this (smartly) serves and drives demand in different ways. And yes: occasionally some old classics get rerun (eg IHSH-332-SAX). Given the amount of discussion in this forum of cult-classics that were only once run, I was pondering what it would look like if the later were more regularly represented in what gets made. I'm imaging something akin to how Dan Smith revived Fender instruments in the early 80's with the introduction of the "Vintage Reissue" series that were made in the Fullerton plant: faithful recreations of old-classics.
Please note this (idea) is, like almost everything in this thread, a pie-in-the-sky suggestion that is absent the reality of manufacturing constraints and opportunity costs. -
@boit I love discussions like these, it allows us to expose some of the constraints we have to work with.
In the early days, I steadfastly refused to remake earlier (usually seasonal) items. I thought that if you had bought something that was obviously limited, then seeing it remade would take some gloss off the purchase. As we got bigger and our customer base expanded, more and more people would look at the back catalogue and ask us to remake stuff, so I relented and we did start remaking stuff.
The single biggest issue we have in this regard is capacity. We just cant do everything we want (and our customers want us) to do, so walk a tightrope of seasonal innovation, remaking classics and keeping decent stock of the continuous items.
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I never understood the whole exclusivity thing. Who cares? It’s not like you’re likely to see the same flannel in everyday life. And if you do, that’s actually kind of cool.
Think it, be it.
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The thrill of the search of a holy grail piece is something unintentionally that happened and something i really like about IH. Also trying to create new collections and new fabrics is what happens imo when you keep trying to reinvent things with the overengineerd vibe from IH. So instead of making it all over and over again i like the ‘limited’ idea.
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@mclaincausey said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
I never understood the whole exclusivity thing. Who cares? It’s not like you’re likely to see the same flannel in everyday life. And if you do, that’s actually kind of cool.
In my everyday life, other than at an Iron Heart event(or the like), I have seen a stranger wearing Iron Heart once - and that was in Japan. So when people bitch about Iron Heart getting too big/ ubiquitous, I do a Haraki eye-roll
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@mclaincausey exclusivity drives sales. Whether it's a limited run item or a core item like Wabash with only 1 left in your size. If everything had an unlimited supply the random one off colors and fabrics would be much less intriguing to buyers.
I know you know all this info, but I want to spew it out anyhow.
Life is filled with impulse decisions driven by chance, opportunity, rarity, exclusivity, FOMO, etc.
Iron Heart buyers aren't immune to a purchase driven by the above factors that they then realize wasn't the best idea after the hype settled. Or, it becomes a favorite item that has a cool story that no one cares to listen to about it.
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How about a set of denim coveralls? 21oz, 18oz, 17oz natural?
Or how about some bibs in 14oz?
6.5oz or 7.5oz sleeveless shirt?
21oz denim backpack?
Just rattling off some tings that have been on my brain the last couple of days as I'm getting ready for Spring and Summer.
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Not saying I’d wear them, but chambray coveralls make a lot of sense to me. I’ve got swamp nuts just thinking about heavy denim coveralls
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Blanket Lined Duck Canvas Jacket
Hello!
I have been a fan of the forum and IH for years and I have many great items which I am absolutely loving. I have waited in the shadows for a particular jacket for a few years but I have never seen it. I now feel compelled to ask about this jacket and I am really curious to know why IH doesn't do something like this.
The jacket I so love is a blanket lined duck canvas jacket (brown, black or blue). I had the original Carhartt Detroit but the fit is not on point for me. I currently own the Carhartt WIP version which is, in my opinion, a really nice interpretation of the original jacket. However, it's modernized for the masses and is somewhat 'streetware' which means it has some short comings.
I searched the forum but I could not find a topic like this so here it is:
Would IH ever make, or has IH ever made, a blanket lined duck canvas jacket with a corduroy collar. I do own the whipcord jacket which has the cord collar and ventile lining which absolutely rips (IHJ-61), but it's not warm enough for Hamburg.Since you asked for my opinion, I would say that jacket (IHJ-61) without the button at the hem, and perhaps with a single slit breast pocket, made from the 17oz duck canvas and lined with the blanket lining from the 101J in both black and brown would mean I will likely never ever take it off ever again. I'll show myself out now.
Thanks!
