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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    • Daniel SanD
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      perfect fit 👍

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      • xXclown86XxX
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        @Tobi just for reference, what is your height and weight? I don't know whether to go with a Large or an XL.

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        • TobiT
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          @xXclown86Xx I am 189cm and 93kg. The limitation for me with this shirt is in the shoulders, which are smaler as compared to other IH western shirts.

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          • xXclown86XxX
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            @Tobi appreciate the response👍🏻 My problem also is going to be shoulders and chest. Anyway, got some thinking to do🤔

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            • denim-dawgD
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              @Tobi Epic look! Total commercial which makes me want to sell my beloved bike and get this shirt instead.

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              • goosehdG
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                @xXclown86Xx Going by height and weight is a really bad comparison to use for sizing as most of us carry weight differently.

                If you take a 26 year old boxer in the prime of their life at 6’0” 200 pounds and compare them to a 50 year old couch potato, their fits are going to be very different.

                The best thing you can do for any purchase is to measure your favourite shirt the way Ironheart does it. Write those measurements down and compare them to the specs of the shirt you want to purchase.

                If you have questions or concerns about a specific measurement, email the shop: shop@ironheart.co.uk and ask for guidance.

                They are a great resource for all of your concerns.

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                  @Tobi looks cool man

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                  • xXclown86XxX
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                    @goosehd I understand that and I don't do that, I was just curious. I go by measurements but sometimes the measurements are off.

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                    • goosehdG
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                      @xXclown86Xx How so? Who’s measurements are off?

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • xXclown86XxX
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                        @goosehd the chart measurements are off sometimes. I know because I own many Iron Heart shirts and study those charts. I'm not going to go back and forth on this.

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                        • goosehdG
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                          @xXclown86Xx Your comment is extremely bold considering how many happy customers have depended on those measurements for many, many purchases.

                          Are you saying that IH is publishing incorrect information?

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            Of course the measurements are off. All measurements are off. The question is by how much.

                            Here are the following causes for measurement discrepancies and my subjective opinion on their size:

                            (1) Overdying. The amount of shrinkage caused by overdying can vary widely. I've seen differences up to an inch.
                            (2) Product variation. Somebody has to cut and sew the product. The amount of variation depends on the material. I've seen more with looser materials such as flannels, probably because the stretch means it's harder to work with.
                            (3) Human error and differences while measuring. It's easy to forget to stretch a certain part of the garment and finding the exact place where a measurement should start for really thick materials (such as leather jackets). Different people might start the measurement in a different place. This should cause a small amount of discrepancy.

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                            • jordanscollectedJ
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                              @xXclown86Xx There are always going to be discrepancies in measurements with small variations in each garment. From what I've been told in the past, Iron Heart measures 3 of each size when a shirt arrives, and they take the average and that's what goes on the chart. It's a much more precise way of finding your size than most clothing companies that have a blanket statement for size large with variation of 2-3" in some cases. That's a crap shoot.

                              There are some people that are extremely particular about measurements down to 1/4" in a sleeve length or opening width, and really want to nail it. Those people can reach out to the IHUK crew and fine tune their purchase to make sure they get the perfect fit.

                              Furthermore, the slight deviation's from the measurements allows for someone who loves the measurements of an XL in a specific shirt to ask for one with the shortest sleeves or the widest shoulders, and get that nailed for them if there's something to consider.

                              Iron Heart isn't meant to be a click, purchase and hope it fits type of company. They hope to avoid returns by taking all the time an effort necessary to get it right the first time.

                              Edit: @goosehd knows better than I do.

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                              • goosehdG
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                                @Giles or @Alex Please correct me if I'm wrong.

                                Ironheart will take a representative sample from a shipment and measure them upon receipt prior to publishing the measurements online. I believe this is 10 2 (as per @Alex) shirts per each size where they are measured as seen in the "how to measure" videos. The measurements are then averaged and placed in the spec. spreadsheet for the product to be sold.

                                Yes, there may be some variation in sizing but the measurements shouldn't be "off". Yes, overdyeing will affect sizing, but because of the number of shirts being measured you shouldn't be seeing an inch in difference. (PLEASE NOTE: You will always run into an outlier - which is defined as a sample that does not fit within the published specs. but this should be very rare.

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                • goosehdG
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                                  @jordanscollected Your info is correct (from my understanding) and I'm glad to see you post it. Thank you!!!

                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  • Daniel SanD
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                                    I think they measure 3 shirt as suggested by jordanscollected 👍

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                                    • AlexA
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                                      @jordanscollected pretty much nailed it, but it’s 2 not 3.

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                                      • AlexA
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                                        I think it’s probably worth noting that we also update the charts every production run, if needed, so comparing a shirt from production run 1 to the chart for production run 100 could definitely give you some results that seemed off

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                                        • xXclown86XxX
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                                          I understand, not sure why you are making a big deal out of this. It started with me asking someone else a simple question. You are just looking for an argument it seems.

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                                          • MizmazzleM
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                                            @xXclown86Xx take a breath. This is not a hostile environment. Just a bunch a like minded thinkers trying to help each other out. Sometimes we can misread a persons intentions, similar to a text conversation. Tone and attitude are hard to read at times. All love around here brother.

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