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Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    Daniel San
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    👍😂

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      the246guy
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      Joined: 8 May 2016

      Those are some stunning pictures! Not sure who does justice to who. The shirt to Giuli or Giuli to the shirt or probably both!

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        Robert Z
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        Joined: 22 Aug 2021

        So is the consensus same size as UHF western? Also, has the sizing on these changed slightly since the last run?

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          goosehd
          Mod Squad
          @goosehd
          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

          @goosehd said in Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural:

          I often write the measurements of my favourite shirt down on a piece of paper along with the measurements of the shirt I want to purchase.

          I will then do a compare of >, <, = to of each line item. For me, my key measurements are the shoulders and chest. If anything is + or - in any category, I will star the line item.

          I will put notes in my order to the IH Crew that I am looking for a medium, large, etc.....with my specific concerns about what I'm looking for in measurements.

          @Robert-Z There is no consensus. Put the work in, measure your shirts, compare the measurements, ask questions to the crew, and you will be rewarded.

          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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            Tobi
            Haraki san Prodigy
            Joined: 12 Aug 2022

            Whoa.. that was fast! Ordered Monday, in DK Wednesday. This shirt is a piece of art, and much softer than expected! Was between XL and XXL and decided for a xxl with 23.6inch BtoB. All measures feel perfect, except the opening is a bit large. BtB and shoulders would have been tricky with xl though...
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              gouki74
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              Joined: 9 Sept 2022

              It fits you perfectly Tobi 😉

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                Daniel San
                見習いボス
                Joined: 2 May 2020

                perfect fit 👍

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                  xXclown86Xx
                  @Tobi
                  Joined: 17 Jan 2023

                  @Tobi just for reference, what is your height and weight? I don't know whether to go with a Large or an XL.

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                    Tobi
                    Haraki san Prodigy
                    @xXclown86Xx
                    Joined: 12 Aug 2022

                    @xXclown86Xx I am 189cm and 93kg. The limitation for me with this shirt is in the shoulders, which are smaler as compared to other IH western shirts.

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                      xXclown86Xx
                      @Tobi
                      Joined: 17 Jan 2023

                      @Tobi appreciate the response👍🏻 My problem also is going to be shoulders and chest. Anyway, got some thinking to do🤔

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                        denim-dawg
                        Iron Heart Deity
                        @Tobi
                        Joined: 20 Oct 2021

                        @Tobi Epic look! Total commercial which makes me want to sell my beloved bike and get this shirt instead.

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                          goosehd
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                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                          @xXclown86Xx Going by height and weight is a really bad comparison to use for sizing as most of us carry weight differently.

                          If you take a 26 year old boxer in the prime of their life at 6’0” 200 pounds and compare them to a 50 year old couch potato, their fits are going to be very different.

                          The best thing you can do for any purchase is to measure your favourite shirt the way Ironheart does it. Write those measurements down and compare them to the specs of the shirt you want to purchase.

                          If you have questions or concerns about a specific measurement, email the shop: shop@ironheart.co.uk and ask for guidance.

                          They are a great resource for all of your concerns.

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                          last edited by goosehd 30 Mar 2023, 11:51 X 1 Reply Last reply 30 Mar 2023, 15:26 Reply Quote 3
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                            A Former User
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                            @Tobi looks cool man

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                              xXclown86Xx
                              @goosehd
                              Joined: 17 Jan 2023

                              @goosehd I understand that and I don't do that, I was just curious. I go by measurements but sometimes the measurements are off.

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                                goosehd
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                                @xXclown86Xx
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                                @xXclown86Xx How so? Who’s measurements are off?

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  xXclown86Xx
                                  @goosehd
                                  Joined: 17 Jan 2023

                                  @goosehd the chart measurements are off sometimes. I know because I own many Iron Heart shirts and study those charts. I'm not going to go back and forth on this.

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                                    goosehd
                                    Mod Squad
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                                    @xXclown86Xx Your comment is extremely bold considering how many happy customers have depended on those measurements for many, many purchases.

                                    Are you saying that IH is publishing incorrect information?

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      DrPat
                                      Iron Heart Deity
                                      Joined: 9 Oct 2009

                                      Of course the measurements are off. All measurements are off. The question is by how much.

                                      Here are the following causes for measurement discrepancies and my subjective opinion on their size:

                                      (1) Overdying. The amount of shrinkage caused by overdying can vary widely. I've seen differences up to an inch.
                                      (2) Product variation. Somebody has to cut and sew the product. The amount of variation depends on the material. I've seen more with looser materials such as flannels, probably because the stretch means it's harder to work with.
                                      (3) Human error and differences while measuring. It's easy to forget to stretch a certain part of the garment and finding the exact place where a measurement should start for really thick materials (such as leather jackets). Different people might start the measurement in a different place. This should cause a small amount of discrepancy.

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                                        jordanscollected
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                                        Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                                        @xXclown86Xx There are always going to be discrepancies in measurements with small variations in each garment. From what I've been told in the past, Iron Heart measures 3 of each size when a shirt arrives, and they take the average and that's what goes on the chart. It's a much more precise way of finding your size than most clothing companies that have a blanket statement for size large with variation of 2-3" in some cases. That's a crap shoot.

                                        There are some people that are extremely particular about measurements down to 1/4" in a sleeve length or opening width, and really want to nail it. Those people can reach out to the IHUK crew and fine tune their purchase to make sure they get the perfect fit.

                                        Furthermore, the slight deviation's from the measurements allows for someone who loves the measurements of an XL in a specific shirt to ask for one with the shortest sleeves or the widest shoulders, and get that nailed for them if there's something to consider.

                                        Iron Heart isn't meant to be a click, purchase and hope it fits type of company. They hope to avoid returns by taking all the time an effort necessary to get it right the first time.

                                        Edit: @goosehd knows better than I do.

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                                          goosehd
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                                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                          @Giles or @Alex Please correct me if I'm wrong.

                                          Ironheart will take a representative sample from a shipment and measure them upon receipt prior to publishing the measurements online. I believe this is 10 2 (as per @Alex) shirts per each size where they are measured as seen in the "how to measure" videos. The measurements are then averaged and placed in the spec. spreadsheet for the product to be sold.

                                          Yes, there may be some variation in sizing but the measurements shouldn't be "off". Yes, overdyeing will affect sizing, but because of the number of shirts being measured you shouldn't be seeing an inch in difference. (PLEASE NOTE: You will always run into an outlier - which is defined as a sample that does not fit within the published specs. but this should be very rare.

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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