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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    We are experimenting with a change to how The Marketplace works.

    From now on only forum users with 20+ posts will be able to access the Want to Buy, Buying and Selling and Stuff To Trade boards.

    The reason for this is an increase in scamming, coupled with a huge increase in low effort, spammy sales threads that link to external sites without providing anymore information.

    Sales threads should include the following at a minimum:

    • Correct details about the item (name, maker, size)
    • Photographs of the item being offered for sale
    • Terms and conditions the seller decides upon
    • A price with specifies currency.

    The Marketplace is provided by us as a free service and an alternative to the other more costly, generalised sites. It is intended to be used by IH interested people, and concentrate on this brand, other similar brands, or items relevant to the community here. It is intended as a resource for forum users not as an entity in itself.

    Users with less than 20 posts who wish to access these boards are encouraged to interact with the community and be a part of what we do here. Reaching 20 posts will then happen quickly. Spam posts or shitposting to reach the threshold will result in a permanent ban.

    Feel free to offer your opinions on this policy here.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
    last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Daniel San
      見習いボス
      Joined: 2 May 2020

      absolutely good decision , well done gentlemen!

      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Perpetual_beta
        Haraki san Student
        Joined: 17 May 2022

        Agree

        This should count towards my 20…

        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          jordanscollected
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 13 Nov 2018

          My only thought that could be a "negative" is that there is probably some people here who browse the site only to buy used items. They may never post, only DM a seller and make a transaction that way. They aren't spamming the site or overloading with posts, only here to quietly spend money.

          world tours:
          888 Fat guy chocolate WT
          Mad Red x2
          Wabidashery

          last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:49 S 1 Reply Last reply 8 Mar 2023, 00:28 Reply Quote 0
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            Oaktavia
            見習いボス
            Joined: 12 Jun 2019

            I think this is perfectly reasonable @neph93

            IG: electricindigowizard

            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

            WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

            last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              That's a good point Jeff, but I don't know what the best approach is.  Whatever we do will be a compromise. As far as I am concerned, I built this place to be a place where people could talk about stuff, interact and have a good time, that to my mind is still the primary purpose.  The buying and selling boards are of secondary consideration, and frankly, if people can't be bothered to give anything back, in the form of some sort of contribution to the community, then will we miss them?

              What is undeniable, is that the number of first-time posters whose first interaction here is to sell something, is increasing massively….

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                neph93
                見習いボス
                Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                @jordanscollected:

                My only thought that could be a "negative" is that there is probably some people here who browse the site only to buy used items. They may never post, only DM a seller and make a transaction that way. They aren't spamming the site or overloading with posts, only here to quietly spend money.

                Reasonable point, and something we have considered. To be fair… there are lots of places they can do that though, E-bay, Grailed, etc.

                I would like to of set the bar a little lower, say five or ten posts.  But the mechanics of the current platform don’t allow it. Regardless, giving a little in terms of content, should be a small price to pay for access.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

                • Virginia Woolf
                last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  goosehd
                  Mod Squad
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                  @Giles:

                  What is undeniable, is that the number of first-time posters whose first interaction here is to sell something, is increasing massively….

                  …and not even trying to make a quality buy/sell post for the items that they are trying to sell.  If their post is please see my eBay (or other similar site) are they contributing to the community in any meaningful way?

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                  last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 18:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    sabergirl
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                    I think 20 posts is a pretty low bar for access. Hopefully it will limit the abusers, and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                    last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Oaktavia
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 12 Jun 2019

                      @goosehd:

                      @Giles:

                      What is undeniable, is that the number of first-time posters whose first interaction here is to sell something, is increasing massively….

                      …and not even trying to make a quality buy/sell post for the items that they are trying to sell.  If their post is please see my eBay (or other similar site) are they contributing to the community in any meaningful way?

                      This exactly Goose

                      IG: electricindigowizard

                      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

                      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        @sabergirl:

                        and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

                        I have a very itchy delete finger…..

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Perpetual_beta
                          Haraki san Student
                          Joined: 17 May 2022

                          In a cycling Forum that I participate in for the last 20 years with a very active marketplace the 20 post rule has decreased spam a lot.

                          last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            Just a reminder for those of you using the buy/sell feature: Please follow this simple guideline when posting items for sale.

                            https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4559.0

                            Some short tips on how to put up an easy to understand item(s) for sale thread

                            1.  come up with a short to the point thread title
                            2.  clearly name the item(s) you have for sale, so that your potential buyer can easy idenfiy the item(s).
                            3.  list the original tag size and inseam (important for pants)
                            4.  provide actual measurements
                            5.  post actual pictures of the item
                            6.  give a word on the condition, any defects, etc.
                            7.  list the price you want to sell your item for
                            8.  include the shipping costs and if you are open to sell worldwide or just within the US or EU, etc
                            9.  name your payment options
                            10. clearly communicate any additional details you think could be important for your customer

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                            last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              neph93
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              @Perpetual_beta:

                              In a cycling Forum that I participate in for the last 20 years with a very active marketplace the 20 post rule has decreased spam a lot.

                              That is good to hear. Thanks.

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

                              • Virginia Woolf
                              last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Chap
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 24 May 2016

                                @neph93:

                                Feel free to offer your opinions on this policy here.

                                @Giles:

                                … this place to be a place where people could talk about stuff, interact and have a good time, that to my mind is still the primary purpose.

                                agree 100%

                                God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

                                last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:34 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  jordanscollected
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                                  FWIW, i think many people people on here would like to ban themselves from browsing the buy/sell forum. The "impulse steal of deal" is real frickin strong on there

                                  world tours:
                                  888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                                  Mad Red x2
                                  Wabidashery

                                  last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Daniel San
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 2 May 2020

                                    @Giles:

                                    @sabergirl:

                                    and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

                                    I have a very itchy delete finger…..

                                    😄👍

                                    last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @Giles:

                                      @sabergirl:

                                      and won’t bombard us with spammy non-sequitur posts to meet the minimum.

                                      I have a very itchy delete finger…..

                                      Do you need cream for that? [emoji51]

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 19:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • mclaincauseyM
                                        mclaincausey
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                        If the new forum supports badging, when someone is repped as a Hero after a forum transaction, a badge would be handy.

                                        Think it, be it.

                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 20:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • MattM
                                          Matt
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                          @jordanscollected:

                                          FWIW, i think many people people on here would like to ban themselves from browsing the buy/sell forum. The "impulse steal of deal" is real frickin strong on there

                                          Seriously.

                                          last edited by 21 Nov 2022, 20:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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