IH-888-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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Hey [mention]jerkules [/mention] I don’t think whether a pair is hemmed or not will influence whether or not you see inseam shrink with washing. That is strictly dependent on the way the denim as a whole responds to water. The part I do agree with is that you’ll see minimal shrinkage if you always cold wash with low agitation.
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One thing i noticed that i thought was super weird, some of the stitching is different color. So like the left pocket and left fly are one yellow/gold color, and the right side of the fly is a different yellow/gold color. Why is that?
can you make a picture?
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Thanks @sabergirl for your input. I probably didn’t explain myself correctly earlier - normally I don’t get my jeans hemmed, and therefore have lots of extra length to play with. If I were buying a new pair of XHS direct from IH, I’d size by my usual crucial points: waist, thigh etc but wouldn’t even consider the length/shrinkage. I’d just cuff it where it felt good once I’d got the shrinkage out. Sizing for length adds an additional factor that’s outside of my experience. Since I’ve never tried to determine the “sweet spot” with regards hemming, I’m now finding it tricky. Add potential shrinkage and I’m even more adrift lol.
In any case, I’ve decided to pass on the like new pair I saw. 31” is just too close to the wire for me, and I do like to have a little cuff. I’ll hold out for when I can afford new from IH.
Thanks for the help y’all.
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One thing i noticed that i thought was super weird, some of the stitching is different color. So like the left pocket and left fly are one yellow/gold color, and the right side of the fly is a different yellow/gold color. Why is that?
can you make a picture?
Here you go. Don’t mind the dry wall dust:
Adding a pantry in the garage and it’s a good break in for the 888’s.
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Looks like self edge just got a load of IH-888XHS.
On another note, my 21oz 888s have the two tone stitching too.
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One thing i noticed that i thought was super weird, some of the stitching is different color. So like the left pocket and left fly are one yellow/gold color, and the right side of the fly is a different yellow/gold color. Why is that?
Completely normal on properly made jeans, there are in fact about 12 or 13 different yarn types used in the construction. of a single pair of jeans, each selected for the properties needed for a particular function…..
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@Noahf I just checked and mine have the same thread color variation that you are seeing on yours.
what a brilliant pair of pants and what an amazing fabric.
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@jordanscollected beautiful evolution. Couple weeks in and softening up nicely for me. Loving this material and trying to practice some self control and hold out for the XHSib restock (whenever that may be) instead of settling for the upcoming release of the 21oz ib… wish me luck w that!
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wow @Bren those look great! How did you size them? they seem to have a slimmer silhouette than mine. I'm 5'11 and 185 and bought size 35 waist. My No Lots are 34's and they still fit larger in the waist than the 888xhs due to the high rise.
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@Paul9221 you bugger! Literally read my mind on the 19oz lefty. That is the last on my list for IH Type 3s
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Much appreciated @jordanscollected. It took a lot of trial and error for me to be able to properly translate my measurements. I’m 5’11 160lbs and went w a tag 30 and have a tag size 31 in the 21oz OD that fits identical. Up till recently, I was buying at least a tag size too large (as you touched on w your no lot, mostly overlooking how the rise makes a difference on where the jeans sit; on the waist or hips. So for me, 31.5” waist on 777, 31” on 555 and 30.5 on 888). I have no place in giving you direction going off your IH history and your awesome WAYW posts but for your next 888 purchase, try going in a half inch to an inch tighter on the waist to what your XHS tag 35s are coming in at for a slimmer profile; bet you could pull it off
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@Paul9221 stumbled upon the new products portion of the forum am am now realizing that you are not talking on restocks in Type 3s. This hurts my brain. Do you have experience in either the UHR or lefty and how they differ? Sounds like I’ll need to budget accordingly indeed.
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@Bren:
@Paul9221 stumbled upon the new products portion of the forum am am now realizing that you are not talking on restocks in Type 3s. This hurts my brain. Do you have experience in either the UHR or lefty and how they differ? Sounds like I’ll need to budget accordingly indeed.
LOL, no worries! I don't have any experience with the 19oz lefty denim that I know of (I'm pretty sure I don't own anything with that fabric), but I do have some experience with the 21/23oz UHR, at least the last iteration (I don't know if anything's changed in this round). The UHR is something amazing. For me, it was a fast fader and it faded in such a lovely way.
Check these forum threads out:
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Good looking out @Paul9221 blanket-lined fist bump
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Hey Guys,
I’m looking at finally buying a pair of IH’s to go along with my ever growing Denim/Sashiko jacket collection. I’ve worn Naked and Famous Weird Guys for years but the cuts just really don’t work for me. They are tight in the thighs and probably too low a rise for me, because of this I have very limited range of motion in them and tend to blow out crotches quickly.
Because of this, my research has brought me to the 888’s and 634’s. IMO the 888 is probably better suited for me due to a higher rise and roomier thigh.
My problem is sizing. Using IH’s guide my Naked and Famous that are labelled as 34’s are actually a 36 waist. I have a little bit of room in the waist of these jeans currently. The thigh on these ones measures at 12, they are definitely too tight here and I need more room. Throwing a tape around my actual waste I’m roughly 36.5 depending where I measure. I could also probably drop about ten pounds, I won’t be getting any bigger.
So, should I be looking at the 35 or the 36 in this Jean? The 35 waist is 35.3 (smaller than what I currently wear) and the 36 is a 36.4 waist (larger than what I currently wear). Am I better off going smaller and stretching or going bigger and hoping they shrink down a bit? I’d prefer to not have to soak then immediately. What do you guys think? Or should I be looking at a different model or Jean? I liked the 21+ heavyweight stuff.
Thanks!
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@nrtphotos Hey Nick, I can see that you were emailing Bailey about these jeans. I have asked the crew to come back to you with the actual measurements of the last pair of tag 36 via email. If you feel they might be a touch too big, we can continue the conversation from there in terms of looking at different denims and/or the 634 cut.
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Hey @AdamC ,
Yes, Bailey had been quite helpful. I guess I’m just more curious as to the general consensus as to whether it’s better to size down and stretch a bit or have a little extra room. I’ll await the email, thank you!
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@nrtphotos my view would be to try and size them comfortably from the offset, not relying on any stretch or shrinkage. I have gone a bit too small on XHS before with the view of stretching them and it was unpleasant. Everyone has different thresholds of course but although very rewarding, the 25oz is super tough and stubborn to break in
