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IH-888-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    Paul9221
    啓蒙家
    Joined: 19 Apr 2011

    I've hot-soaked, hot-low-agitation-washed two pairs of these and never got more than 0.25" of shrink on inseam.  Granted, they were already hemmed by IHUK, so they were like 32.5" before soaking.  I assume that I would've seen more shrink had they been the default ~36" length.

    YMMV, but I would say that a cold soak is probably fine in that you won't get a ton of inseam shrink.  I think the greater concern is shrink while washing, which you will probably have to do eventually.  If you're okay with committing to a lifetime of cold low-agitation washes with these, you probably won't see much shrink there either.  And, if you look at what I wrote above, you may not even get much shrink with a hot wash, either.

    Just make sure you line-dry, not machine-dry, for lots of reasons 🙂

    Blanket-line all the things!!!

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      jerkules
      啓蒙家
      Joined: 26 Aug 2018

      That’s enormously helpful, thanks a bunch @Paul9221

      I’ve never had a pair of jeans hemmed, I just cuff and roll. Hence my trepidation. I’ve measured the inseam of my current pairs to the point at which I tend to cuff my jeans to, which is 30”. The pair I’m eyeing are hemmed to 31” so on paper I’d be fine with a small cuff. Wouldn’t wanna lose that extra inch, so I’d have to be very careful…

      last edited by 4 Mar 2022, 17:57 3 Apr 2022, 17:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Noahf
        Joined: 19 Aug 2021

        Look ma, no hands!

        I never thought I would have a pair that stood up on their own, but here we are. The upper block is awesome, comfy. The rear goes a good few inches higher than many of my other pairs. I do wish there was a bit more taper below the knee, but i imagine that is a symmetrical issue.

        And the craziest thing that will be said today: these 25oz feel so light compared to the double knee bibs its like im not wearing anything! They feel like “normal” jeans at this point. I think ive gone mad. They arnt even soft yet and feel like a good pair. I had them hemmed but still have way to much, so probably going to do a tight japanese cuff.

        One thing i noticed that i thought was super weird, some of the stitching is different color. So like the left pocket and left fly are one yellow/gold color, and the right side of the fly is a different yellow/gold color. Why is that?

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          sabergirl
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          Joined: 4 Oct 2013

          Hey [mention]jerkules [/mention] I don’t think whether a pair is hemmed or not will influence whether or not you see inseam shrink with washing. That is strictly dependent on the way the denim as a whole responds to water. The part I do agree with is that you’ll see minimal shrinkage if you always cold wash with low agitation.

          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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            Daniel San
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            Joined: 2 May 2020

            @Noahf:

            One thing i noticed that i thought was super weird, some of the stitching is different color. So like the left pocket and left fly are one yellow/gold color, and the right side of the fly is a different yellow/gold color. Why is that?

            can you make a picture?

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              jerkules
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 26 Aug 2018

              Thanks @sabergirl for your input. I probably didn’t explain myself correctly earlier - normally I don’t get my jeans hemmed, and therefore have lots of extra length to play with. If I were buying a new pair of XHS direct from IH, I’d size by my usual crucial points: waist, thigh etc but wouldn’t even consider the length/shrinkage. I’d just cuff it where it felt good once I’d got the shrinkage out. Sizing for length adds an additional factor that’s outside of my experience. Since I’ve never tried to determine the “sweet spot” with regards hemming, I’m now finding it tricky. Add potential shrinkage and I’m even more adrift lol.

              In any case, I’ve decided to pass on the like new pair I saw. 31” is just too close to the wire for me, and I do like to have a little cuff. I’ll hold out for when I can afford new from IH.

              Thanks for the help y’all.

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                Noahf
                Joined: 19 Aug 2021

                @Daniel:

                @Noahf:

                One thing i noticed that i thought was super weird, some of the stitching is different color. So like the left pocket and left fly are one yellow/gold color, and the right side of the fly is a different yellow/gold color. Why is that?

                can you make a picture?

                Here you go. Don’t mind the dry wall dust:

                Adding a pantry in the garage and it’s a good break in for the 888’s.

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                  bizbuzz
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 5 Feb 2022

                  Looks like self edge just got a load of IH-888XHS.

                  On another note, my 21oz 888s have the two tone stitching too.

                  Looking for:
                  IHSH-355-RED XXL
                  IHSH-292-IND XXL
                  IHSH-189-BRN XXL
                  IHSH-358-IND XXL
                  IHSH-288-IND XXL/XXXL

                  last edited by 5 Apr 2022, 01:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    @Noahf:

                    One thing i noticed that i thought was super weird, some of the stitching is different color. So like the left pocket and left fly are one yellow/gold color, and the right side of the fly is a different yellow/gold color. Why is that?

                    Completely normal on properly made jeans, there are in fact about 12 or 13 different yarn types used in the construction. of a single pair of jeans, each selected for the properties needed for a particular function…..

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      jordanscollected
                      啓蒙家
                      Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                      @Noahf I just checked and mine have the same thread color variation that you are seeing on yours.

                      what a brilliant pair of pants and what an amazing fabric. 

                      world tours:
                      888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                      Mad Red x2
                      Wabidashery

                      last edited by 7 Apr 2022, 14:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        flannel slut
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 21 Feb 2022

                        @jordanscollected beautiful evolution. Couple weeks in and softening up nicely for me. Loving this material and trying to practice some self control and hold out for the XHSib restock (whenever that may be) instead of settling for the upcoming release of the 21oz ib… wish me luck w that!

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                          Paul9221
                          啓蒙家
                          Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                          Great fit, Bren!

                          Don't forget that 19oz lefties and 21/23oz UHR are in the works. Make sure you leave room for those in the budget.  You don't want to miss out on those!

                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                            jordanscollected
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 13 Nov 2018

                            wow @Bren those look great! How did you size them? they seem to have a slimmer silhouette than mine. I'm 5'11 and 185 and bought size 35 waist. My No Lots are 34's and they still fit larger in the waist than the 888xhs due to the high rise.

                            world tours:
                            888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                            Mad Red x2
                            Wabidashery

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                              flannel slut
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 21 Feb 2022

                              @Paul9221 you bugger! Literally read my mind on the 19oz lefty. That is the last on my list for IH Type 3s

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                                flannel slut
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 21 Feb 2022

                                Much appreciated @jordanscollected.  It took a lot of trial and error for me to be able to properly translate my measurements.  I’m 5’11 160lbs and went w a tag 30 and have a tag size 31 in the 21oz OD that fits identical.  Up till recently, I was buying at least a tag size too large (as you touched on w your no lot, mostly overlooking how the rise makes a difference on where the jeans sit; on the waist or hips.  So for me, 31.5” waist on 777, 31” on 555 and 30.5 on 888). I have no place in giving you direction going off your IH history and your awesome WAYW posts but for your next 888 purchase, try going in a half inch to an inch tighter on the waist to what your XHS tag 35s are coming in at for a slimmer profile; bet you could pull it off  😎

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                                  flannel slut
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 21 Feb 2022

                                  @Paul9221 stumbled upon the new products portion of the forum am am now realizing that you are not talking on restocks in Type 3s. This hurts my brain. Do you have experience in either the UHR or lefty and how they differ?  Sounds like I’ll need to budget accordingly indeed.

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                                    Paul9221
                                    啓蒙家
                                    Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                    @Bren:

                                    @Paul9221 stumbled upon the new products portion of the forum am am now realizing that you are not talking on restocks in Type 3s. This hurts my brain. Do you have experience in either the UHR or lefty and how they differ?  Sounds like I’ll need to budget accordingly indeed.

                                    LOL, no worries!  I don't have any experience with the 19oz lefty denim that I know of (I'm pretty sure I don't own anything with that fabric), but I do have some experience with the 21/23oz UHR, at least the last iteration (I don't know if anything's changed in this round).  The UHR is something amazing.  For me, it was a fast fader and it faded in such a lovely way.

                                    Check these forum threads out:

                                    • UHR:  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16635.0

                                    • Lefty:  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15624.0

                                    Blanket-line all the things!!!

                                    last edited by 23 Apr 2022, 01:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      flannel slut
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 21 Feb 2022

                                      Good looking out @Paul9221 blanket-lined fist bump

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                                        nrtphotos
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 26 Apr 2022

                                        Hey Guys,

                                        I’m looking at finally buying a pair of IH’s to go along with my ever growing Denim/Sashiko jacket collection. I’ve worn Naked and Famous Weird Guys for years but the cuts just really don’t work for me. They are tight in the thighs and probably too low a rise for me, because of this I have very limited range of motion in them and tend to blow out crotches quickly.

                                        Because of this, my research has brought me to the 888’s and 634’s. IMO the 888 is probably better suited for me due to a higher rise and roomier thigh.

                                        My problem is sizing. Using IH’s guide my Naked and Famous that are labelled as 34’s are actually a 36 waist. I have a little bit of room in the waist of these jeans currently. The thigh on these ones measures at 12, they are definitely too tight here and I need more room. Throwing a tape around my actual waste I’m roughly 36.5 depending where I measure. I could also probably drop about ten pounds, I won’t be getting any bigger.

                                        So, should I be looking at the 35 or the 36 in this Jean? The 35 waist is 35.3 (smaller than what I currently wear) and the 36 is a 36.4 waist (larger than what I currently wear). Am I better off going smaller and stretching or going bigger and hoping they shrink down a bit? I’d prefer to not have to soak then immediately. What do you guys think? Or should I be looking at a different model or Jean? I liked the 21+ heavyweight stuff.

                                        Thanks!

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                                          Jett129
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                                          There’s always the possibility that the amazing guys at IHUK could find you your Goldilocks pair that’s just right.

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