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    • deancleanD
      deanclean
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      Could someone enlighten me on the difference between the Wesco MP Toe and the Western Toe? They look identical to me on the Wesco site. I’m assuming the western toe is a little more pointy but hard for me to tell from the website. Maybe I can see that the MP is a little more rounded?

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      • OaktaviaO
        Oaktavia
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        I went down a forum rabbit hole after looking up tshirts I purchased on here that are from 10 or so years ago. I saw and (have seen while reading elsewhere on here) references to the Stubborn Crew. Can someone explain to me what this is or was? And how they got that name? Is it the IH crew? Curious…

        IG: electricindigowizard

        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

        WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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        • J
          Jett129
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          It’s absolutely 100% the IH Crew. Sorry I can’t tell you when or how it started.

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          • GilesG
            Giles
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            The Stubborn Crew is us - sometimes we use/used it to refer to UK, sometimes to UK and Japan.  When Paula and I were spitballing descriptors for Iron Heart back in 2006/7 (I wanted something a bit more inventive than "Extra Heavy") we came up with "Stubborn", I suspect there are references to Stubborn Denim all over the place, it thus became a natural extension of that to call us the Stubborn Crew (even though it was effectively just me at the time)…..

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • chrisjohnnickC
              chrisjohnnick
              Iron Heart Deity
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              side question: are there any openings in the stubborn crew?

              side side question: are there any openings in Nashville, TN?

              I am quite stubborn and have loads of skills.

              Wants List:
              IHSH-20-Red, XL
              IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
              IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
              IHSW-45 Black, M
              IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
              IH-777S-SB size 32
              IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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              • OaktaviaO
                Oaktavia
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                Ah okay cool thanks for the answer @Giles that's pretty cool.

                IG: electricindigowizard

                "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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                • Clint_DC
                  Clint_D
                  啓蒙家
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                  IHSH-31mkII if I remember correctly.

                  ATX IH Hoarder

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                  • AnesthetistA
                    Anesthetist
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                    @chrisjohnnick:

                    side question: are there any openings in the stubborn crew?

                    side side question: are there any openings in Nashville, TN?

                    I am quite stubborn and have loads of skills.

                    I wish there were an IH store or vendor in Nashville!

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                    IG: bluehandsslim

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                    • MattM
                      Matt
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                      I’m sorry @chrisjohnnick but once I convince Katie expatriate and move to the UK I’ll be weaseling applying for the next available position. The seed was slyly planted in Gosport and I’ve been lovingly tending to it daily.  😛

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                      • MattM
                        Matt
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                        How much can I get a houseboat in Portsmouth for?

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                        • mikebarhootM
                          mikebarhoot
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                          Based on that Giles…Ive misused the term from the get go. I always understood it to mean ‘one who endures the stubbornness of the denim’ and have reference it many times when someone has posted they got their 1st pr.

                          Oh well… sail evē. [emoji23]

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                          • goosehdG
                            goosehd
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                            @mikebarhoot I have always thought the same as you…

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            • popvultureP
                              popvulture
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                              @Matt have you seen those narrowboats? Doesn't seem like a bad plan, roaming the canals with the pensioners.

                              WTB
                              IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                              Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                              • MattM
                                Matt
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                                I’m actually scrolling through listings as I type this…

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                                • popvultureP
                                  popvulture
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                                  I think a big downside to British boat life is that it's cold as nads. Not sure I could take it, haha… seems charming on many levels, though.

                                  WTB
                                  IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                                  Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
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                                    @mikebarhoot:

                                    Based on that Giles…Ive misused the term from the get go. I always understood it to mean ‘one who endures the stubbornness of the denim’ and have reference it many times when someone has posted they got their 1st pr.

                                    Oh well… sail evē. [emoji23]

                                    Does it matter? It's like the W or M on the right rear pocket, use it like you want to…...

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • mikebarhootM
                                      mikebarhoot
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                                      nope. and re-reading my post my response came across way more serious than i intended.

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                                      • GilesG
                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
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                                        😃 😃 😃 😃

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • L
                                          leafscan18
                                          The Unwoven
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                                          What about the 888 is attractive compared with the 633?
                                          @neph93 availability at the time. and even today, I don't think the 888 in 21oz are restocked anywhere. I think the thigh in the 888s and top block in general would work better. Although the 633's have conformed and stretched well to my body over time

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                                          • GilesG
                                            Giles
                                            IHUK Crew
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                                            @leafscan18:

                                            What about the 888 is attractive compared with the 633?

                                            Attractive is subjective.  What you find attractive someone else may not  🙂

                                            IH-888S-21 is due for restock any minute…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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