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    IHSH-454-BRN - 11oz Military Serge Western Shirt
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    • AlexA
      Alex
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      said in IHSH-467-GRN - Ultra Heavy Flannel Buffalo Check Western Shirt - Green/Black:

      We found on reruns of core items, sizing was creeping a little smaller year on year, so we resampled this sample size large, made sure it fit Haraki how he wanted, then graded up and down from that (like we do with all new samples).

      This is the only deliberate thing that has happened with sizing. At no point has anyone mentioned any deliberate or specific changes to sleeve length. Samples have always been made in size large. Samples from 5 years ago fit larger than samples from one year ago. That is empirical, and what we wanted to adjust.

      Everyone weighing in on this conversation has been around here long enough to know that some things size small and some things size big. Sometimes we make mistakes on a sample. Sometimes a production run shrinks more than the sample did, sometimes it shrinks less.

      Sorry if this shirt does not look like it will fit you, or you've missed out on a previous product for similar reasons.

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      • GilesG
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        Thank you for answering so politely Alex. I have written and deleted my version of the above response more times than I care to dwell on...

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • AppfaffA
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          The is perhaps the most beautiful shirt I have ever seen. Can’t wait!!

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          • GilesG
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            Hope the "new" sizing works for you 🤐 🤐 🤐 🤐

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • NickN
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              More of Rudi, wearing a Large.

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              • John GaltJ
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                With the three FW26 shirts that are released or being released thus far all having what appears to be atypical western shirt dimensions and more typical of work shirts, my bad in misinterpreting this along with the comment on regrading the sample resizing / tweaking to be more than it was literally noted. Thank you @alex for kindly setting me straight in that these recent shirt releases are just the normal of some shirts running atypical from the typical dimensions and not a new normal.

                No one’s happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.

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                • Daniel SanD
                  Daniel San
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                  @Alex
                  would you expect this serge version to become soft ?
                  had a serge western shirt a few years ago but that was 13 oz when I remember correctly .

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                  • SteveS
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                    NOW LIVE

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                    • RangadelloR
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                      Well, I ordered a large and asked the crew about a trying to find one closer to my ideal. If it doesn’t work, I will be sad. But, I thought about this a bit last night, and have some thoughts.

                      Over the last 7 years or so, Iron Heart has become such an important part of my life and my identity. I don’t ever have to decide what outfit to wear, just what combination! That’s a little bit of an exaggeration, but basically true. I am pretty much always wearing an IH western shirt (and pants, and jacket). As someone who is pretty awkward, lacking confidence, and a more than healthy dash of self loathing, these clothes provide a little bit of comfort and confidence. And I don’t flaunt it. It’s purely a ‘for me’ thing. I don’t even like people to know the details about my wardrobe. I get self conscious about it. I am financially comfortable, but not a wealthy person, and the amount I spend on these clothes is straight up unreasonable. But it is totally worth it to me. Quality matters to me. And maybe its because it gives me a stronger barrier from the world, but I am so much more comfortable in think heavy clothes. Anyway, blah blah blah… my point is… I am privileged to have so many great fitting IH western shirts, and if these proportions are the ‘new’ norm, or back to the old norm, or whatever, I am sure they are perfect for plenty of people. And if those folks are able to get a shirt that brings them even a fraction of what these things bring me, then hell yes, get it! Bodies are different. Everyone should have the opportunity to experience whatever these clothes might bring to their lives. Cause it’s not insignificant. It’s powerful shit! And I’ve already got a lifetime supply… At least until I inevitably gain a significant bit of weight 😅. At which point, maybe these proportions will be perfect for me again!

                      Anyway, rant over. I appreciate you guys.

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                      • Daniel SanD
                        Daniel San
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                        need to look better than @Shane-B 😂
                        so @Axel-HH found me one that should work 👏

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                        • AppfaffA
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                          @Giles lol I wasn’t going to say anything, but as someone who has had to “flip up” the cuffs as these western shirts for almost 2 decades (and it’s not like I have short arms), I’m all for how these came out 😎

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                          • GilesG
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                            @Rangadello said in IHSH-454-BRN - 11oz Military Serge Western Shirt - Brown:

                            Anyway, rant over. I appreciate you guys.

                            That's not a rant, that's a eulogy. Thank you....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • goosehdG
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                              @Rangadello well said and thank you! 🙏

                              “our policy of no discussions regarding politics, religion, asparagus, and other controversial issues.” - Andrew

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                              • Y
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                                @Appfaff Adam i was thinking exactly the same thing and refrained posting. I have been flipping my cuffs on my shirts since day one.

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                                • Daniel SanD
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                                  @Rangadello
                                  👏 well said!!

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                                  • Axel HHA
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                                    @Daniel-San Let’s see!

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                                    • northsouthdenimguyN
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                                      Unfortunately, GP got their delivery a little late, so I wasn’t able to pick mine up today. Based on their measurements, I’m sticking with a 3XL, which is a pretty typical size for me. Sometimes I go with a 4XL, just depends on the shirt and the measurements. Champ sent me a pic wearing his usual size, and it looks like it fits him pretty much like every other shirt he owns. Take all that with a grain of salt, but I do think people might be overthinking this one a bit…

                                      @selveldgesteps

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                                      • AnesthetistA
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                                        Just ordered a large from IHUK w black HD snaps and a silver cats eye collar button ⚡️

                                        IG: bluehandsslim

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                                        • jebrandJ
                                          jebrand
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                                          @Anesthetist I went with the same configuration! Been looking forward to this one since it was announced.

                                          WTB: IHSH-265 red size large

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