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    • I
      IrishHeart
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      Hopefully I didn’t overstep the mark with my previous cartoon post and offend anyone.
      I have loved watching the US team and like Poch a lot. They were in a no win situation last night.
      When leaders apply pressure to an already corrupt and subservient organisation then it doesn’t sit right. Infantino should also have been included in the image.

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      • AlexA
        Alex
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        Thank you @IrishHeart , I have kwept an eye on this thread, and to me all the critique is pointed at the corruption of FIFA, and the fact that a world leader has levereaged that for their countries own gain rather than political critique, which is why we have chosen to let it stand

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        • I
          IrishHeart
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          @Alex that was entirely the spirit in which was intended. Thanks

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            I’m offended by the actions of the pissee and his counterpart, not by a cartoon. Imagine being on the horn with Infantino and claiming the call was unjust in the same labored breath where you admit you don’t know what a red card is. Such incoherence and corruption invites whatever ridicule people want to pile on.

            I don’t ever expect USMNT to succeed over elite nations but this felt like a regression at least from the last time facing Belgium in an elimination, taking them into extra time and even having a lead there for a moment. Though I guess you could argue that was largely Tim Howard.

            Think it, be it.

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              will6er
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              @Sage954 Mate - that was a clear red card.

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              • GilesG
                Giles
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                But sort of so what? Even if it was not a clear red card, there is nothing in the FIFA regulations that say, any Tom, Dick or Harry can intervene and put pressure on FIFA to change what the regs do say.

                https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cly99dxjkxxo.

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • GilesG
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                  @Sage954 said in Football (Soccer):

                  It never should have been a red card and Claus has previously been investigated for match fixing.

                  So he was specially picked to referee this match, but forgot who gave him the brown envelope 🙂

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    IrishHeart
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                    The referee was investigated because of some spurious claims by the owner of Brazilian club Botafogo.
                    Absolutely no evidence was found.

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                    • KasiK
                      Kasi
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                      Argentina second time lucky.

                      Some dream of being cool, I make it look dangerous.🖕

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                      • KasiK
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                        After watching so many World Cup since 1982
                        This one is far worse today.

                        Even though Egypt second goal was not allowed, same should have applied to Argentina third goal.

                        Some dream of being cool, I make it look dangerous.🖕

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                          Sage954
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                          @will6er
                          The still photo looks bad. In real time it’s a yellow at most.
                          @Giles
                          Article 27. Its been used before
                          @IrishHeart
                          He was investigated for irregularities in red cards. I have zero trust in that investigation, maybe he’s just a bad ref that keeps failing up.
                          The bottom line is it’s all about $$$$

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                          • motojoboboM
                            motojobobo
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                            About time the forum heated up over the world cup!

                            The journey is the objective.

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                              will6er
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                              @Sage954 Lets agree to disagree- maybe it depends on the league you are watching with different ref standards?

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                                IrishHeart
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                                @Sage954 Article 27 has never been used in a WC tournament before. There have been 189 red cards in the history of the WC and only 2 players have not served a suspension.
                                The last time was 1962 , in the days before a red cards resulted in an automatic ban.
                                Ronaldo should have served a 3 game ban after being sent off in qualify but corrupt FIFA reduced it to one because they wanted the star players in the competition.

                                The ref was investigated regarding handing irregular red cards, but was was cleared by Brazilian authorities and FIFA. Disgruntled owners of football clubs throw out baseless accusations regularly against perceived injustices against their team. That doesn’t make the ref guilty and it was a cheap shot by Trump to mention it.

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                                • NickN
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                                  All of this discussion is great but can we focus on the fact that football is coming home.

                                  The imagination is the golden pathway to everywhere - Terence McKenna

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                                  • BridgerB
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                                    Where is home for you @Nick, Buenos Aires or Paris? 🤔

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                                    • GilesG
                                      Giles
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                                      🤣

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • Tago MagoT
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                                        @Nick English football fans know two states of mind - delusion and despair

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                                        • NickN
                                          Nick
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                                          Rude.

                                          But agreeable.

                                          The imagination is the golden pathway to everywhere - Terence McKenna

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                                          • hajdukH
                                            hajduk
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                                            @Nick And here we go!
                                            This reminds me of my first Gosport party in 2018, a few days before the Croatia-England semi-final. All the pubs in Portsmouth and Gosport were packed with drunk, friendly guys singing...🎵 It's coming home🎵
                                            Few days later : IMG_6964.jpeg

                                            ✊😆

                                            "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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