IHSH-189-IND - 21oz Selvedge Denim CPO Work Shirt - "The UnTucked" - Indigo
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Personally, I think you’re overthinking it. You like the way it feels to wear them both? Just do it!
That’s the short answer. Longer answer is, I think that layering anything is going to accelerate wear of any and all types on both layers of fabric. The friction created as the layers brush past each other when taking them off and putting them on is probably the most abrasive because the movement is more extreme. The layers then rub against each other when you move, so I’m sure it may change the wear patterns a bit. Especially because when you pull your sleeve into another sleeve the creases may settle in different ways every time.
I don’t think any of that is particularly more intense when both layers are denim. So the only thing that I think you may be altering is the high-contrast super locked in weird creases look that denim gets from hard wear with little washing. The denim may end up looking more marbled from different rubbing, or lose indigo more evenly off the top, or both.
I say wear them together if you want to! Do what’s comfortable, and see what happens.
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@Oaktavia Love all your eye watering indigo journeys, taking the Oz there and back again. Sounds like a trek for sure

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@tody cheers, I guises it’s kind of similar.but @Oaktavia is in a different league than me, eating, drinking and sleeping the blue wonder
I’d love to see your project come into fruit.I was shocked at how little fading the IH-555s21 got after 250 something days I lost feeling in my left leg and … haha cause I had the heavy belt on as well, so when I sat down it was a tourniquet. The 805 changed dramatically. My understanding is that the jeans need sun, air and water to fade properly. But it may be different with shirts and jackets? I wore the Wabash and 33 under the pale rider and they gave the leather crazy amount of blue love. All good fun



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@sabergirl haha yeah for sure, definitely overthinking it but in a way that I enjoy. I love to sit and ponder about the complexities of indigo and cotton. Your thorough answer is greatly valued and appreciated. I agree with and will take your insight with me as I journey through these 21oz fever dreams.
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I wonder if perhaps the coarseness of the 21 oz cpo might wear down and degrade the softer chambray lining of the parka over time? If this is the case, is that worth the damage to the lining of the parka? Perhaps another more rugged denim layer would best be used to create the rubbing you’re looking for, for fantastic fading friction…
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If my lefty Type 3 was large enough for layering this would sure do the trick. Stiff and sandpaper-like as it is

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@denim-dawg said in IHSH-189-IND - 21oz Selvedge Denim CPO Work Shirt - "The UnTucked" - Indigo:
@Oaktavia is in a different league than me, eating, drinking and sleeping the blue wonder
I’d love to see your project come into fruit.Oh, please! Have you seen your fades?! Those 805s you have are the golden standard for bib fades in my mind.
I was shocked at how little fading the IH-555s21 got after 250 something days.
This may be my answer then. If you went 250 days with 21oz 555s under 21oz 805s then the test run data as already been collected. Since you saw a difference in the levels of fading from inner to outer layer, then the answer is clear.
My understanding is that the jeans need sun, air and water to fade properl. All good fun



This helps me with my answer as well. So, what I will do is hault wearing the 21oz parka indoors and wear it when most folks would deem practical, what it was created for. Outdoor usage to protect from the cold. That way, it'll still be a fade project of its own and I will not hinder the fading process of the 21oz CPO.
This is why I posted this query here as I knew I would get the answers I needed. Thanks man!
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@Mizmazzle said in IHSH-189-IND - 21oz Selvedge Denim CPO Work Shirt - "The UnTucked" - Indigo:
I wonder if perhaps the coarseness of the 21 oz cpo might wear down and degrade the softer chambray lining of the parka over time? If this is the case, is that worth the damage to the lining of the parka? Perhaps another more rugged denim layer would best be used to create the rubbing you’re looking for, for fantastic fading friction…
This is something I hadn't thought of and further solidifies my newfound conclusion to wear them together less.
@Mizmazzle said in IHSH-189-IND - 21oz Selvedge Denim CPO Work Shirt - "The UnTucked" - Indigo:
@Tobi yup! I’ve been layering my lefty over my IHJ-86…
See, I did this with my Slubby Type 2 and IHSH-409 and it worked out well. Seems it would be better suited for two more rugged denim fabrics with no lining.
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@Oaktavia All this overthinking is definitely part of the fun. And the 189-IND is looking great.
@denim-dawg That’s interesting, I would have expected some serious fading after 250 days. (And thank you for sticking it out that long in the name of denim science).
@Mizmazzle I had the same thought regarding the chambray lining.
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@Oaktavia Solid plan! Look forward to seeing progress.
Has anyone said when this is potentially dropping?
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@natefreezy it was forecast for 2027 at some point.
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@Oaktavia excellent work as always! Love the different hues that are coming through!
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@Oaktavia Looking great!

