Random Rants
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I like tipping to express that I appreciate someone's service and hospitality. But then it's up to me if and how much I tip. I very much dislike it if there is any kind of obligation. And I find it hard to bear when it's there to bring the salary of someone who works hard up to a decent level because the exploitative employer doesn't do it himself. There are efforts recognizable over here in Europe that tipping is becoming an obligation, at least in gastronomy. I hope it's not going to work and remains a sign of appreciation.
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Tipping is such a long-lived institution here in the US that it’s not a matter of businesses “underpaying”. There is a tipped minimum wage that is orders of magnitude lower than the minimum in other industries. It’s $2.13 per hour. Generations of restaurants have built this labor cost into their operations budgets. They don’t really decide to do it—most places couldn’t operate without it without lots of other changes throughout the industry. In places where they’ve raised that minimum, it’s had to be done slowly, and with tax breaks to defray the cost until they could build it in.
There are very few places that have decided to pay more just because it’s the right thing to do.
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@sabergirl said in Random Rants:
the minimum ... is $2.13 per hour.
that would be illegal in pretty much every country in the EU
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@sabergirl said in Random Rants:
Tipping is such a long-lived institution here in the US that it’s not a matter of businesses “underpaying”. There is a tipped minimum wage that is orders of magnitude lower than the minimum in other industries. It’s $2.13 per hour. Generations of restaurants have built this labor cost into their operations budgets. They don’t really decide to do it—most places couldn’t operate without it without lots of other changes throughout the industry. In places where they’ve raised that minimum, it’s had to be done slowly, and with tax breaks to defray the cost until they could build it in.
There are very few places that have decided to pay more just because it’s the right thing to do.
And when they do, and have to raise prices to do so, they get lambasted by the public for being “overpriced.”
It’s a very difficult situation. And tip culture and practices have now bled into other service industries, even when the “service” provided is quite minimal.
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@Alex auto correct indeed strikes again. At least in this case the offending apostrophe didn’t remove any letters of intended purpose.
@goosehd i think summer vacation is more to blame then my whiskey consumption on this one. I’ve let my teacher instincts of proof reading slip in my summer laze. Which leads to my next rant!!
We’ve been short changed a week of summer break in my school district this year due to calendar shifts. We have to return a week earlier. Sure, we get an extra week next summer…but what the hell does that do for me now!!?
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@Mizmazzle said in Random Rants:
summer vacation is more to blame
thenthan my whiskey consumptionOne more mistake and you'll be held back
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@Brian said in Random Rants:
had tips turned on the card machine each time I just hit no
I once typed in my PIN, having missed the fact that the waitress had handed me the machine on the screen where it was asking for how much I wanted to tip. I then thought something on the machine had effed up, so typed in my PIN again and hit Enter. I don't want to get into what my PIN number is exactly, but I'll say that the first digit is a higher one... Anyway, I sheepishly had to ask for a refund which was almost triple the original bill once I realised my mistake.
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@Tago-Mago haha. How many more mistakes until they just tell me not to go back??
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@Mizmazzle I think they like you too much for that…
"I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)
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@Graeme its getting pretty out of hand in Canada, default tip option at the liquor store is 18%, 20% and 25%, everywhere from Subway to Starbucks to Bakeries have tip options here now and it's usually either 15, 20, 25 or even in some cases its 20, 25, 30.
Everyone says its because Square and Toast don't give the option to skip it, but I have had food where they use Square and they offer way lower tip options. I do wonder if you tip at a liquor store or whatever, where does that money go? It always feels to me they are just asking me "are you willing to pay more for what your buying?" when I see the option and received 0 assistance or anything.
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@Giles yeah, they are basically just preying on people who dont want to hit no tip, they have this giant ipad where you touch one of the three buttons or you hit no tip and they are standing there looking at you, I imagine the employees dont expect it or care but the whole setup is just uncomfortable and alot of people end up tipping.
The whole other crazy thing is that the preset tip options include the tax in the calculation, so your tipping on the sales tax as well, small amount but really adds up after years.
CBC has done alot of content about it but this is the most recent:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/marketplace/tipping-marketplace-1.7395871
