IH-1955S - 21oz Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@Alex said in IH-1955S-142 - 14oz Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
I think the clearest I can be on the 1955 is as follows:
The cut is going to become more core; that is to say, we will make it in more denims over the next few years. That said, just because we decide its core on Monday, does not mean that by Friday we can agree to run it in every denim we also call core - this will take time. Further, we have a limited production capacity for jeans, that is currently at over 100%, so for every new 1955 iteration we want to add to the line, we either have to drop something else from the line, or accept that everything will be further delayed.
When it comes to possibly dropping something else to make way for the 1955S-xxx, then what should we drop? The problem is that all our cuts are pretty popular. If we look at total sales of jeans from 2019-2024, the most popular cut in that period accounted for 21.8% of jeans sales. The least popular cut (not inc boot cuts) accounted for 19% of total jeans sales, so it's not like we can safely say "trend is moving to wider pants, lets kill the slim jeans" which is oft suggested helpfully by people on social media.
As to a final point on this specific denim, I think its a toss up to be honest on how soon we do it, if we do it. One side of the coin is that the 'vintage tapered' cut probably lends itself to other core fabrics in the line up more than it does to an indigo black denim. The other side of the coin is that the factory that makes 14oz jeans is less busy than the one that makes heavyweight jeans, so it may be slightly easier to do.
And to add, the % breakdowns above are just our direct sales, it does not take into account global volume to retailers around the world. For eg, in Thailand and Indonesia, two of out top 10 most sold to wholesale countries, sell massively more 555 than any other cut, so we still have to run the jeans to support them even if we see a decline in popularity in the West
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@Alex thanks
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@Autorotate , I replied to your message from 3 days ago asking if I had these in a 34 waist, that I would be willing to let go of.
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I took these off yesterday only to discover that the knee has gone, and I have three crotch blowouts!
58 days wear. I’m thinking maybe I should wash them already just to prolong their life.
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@Mister_Brue Wait, are you saying these only have a total of 58 days of wear? No chance
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@Mister_Brue did you size them loose? I blew out the crotch on my 16oz slubs in less than 50 wears too but started to realise I’d sized them a bit too big. I went with a 36 waist on them for comfort and have since been wearing 34 and starting with them tight and going for a 1.5 inch stretch. Think with the 16oz slubs I must have had an excess of fabric in the excuse my French “bollocks” area creating some friction
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@Mister_Brue I am super curious what they would look like after a wash. Is some of they light greying from dust/dirt via your jobsites?
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@Oaktavia Oh, 100%! I’ve washed them now, so I will take some more snaps when I can after the weekend.
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@Mister_Brue cool
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@Mister_Brue definitely understand that, there’s no way I could wear my 555’s for work. Just thought it worth pointing out that the only time I’d gone for a loose ish fit I had a similar issue. I’m getting to around 150-200 wears in a size 34 before getting close to crotch blowouts and 50-60 when I went with a 36.
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@Mister_Brue my lord they are glorious
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@Mister_Brue Wow! These look great
Hard to fathom this is 58 days of wear. I doubt I could get there in 580 days. That's handcraft for you. (Currently I'm a student (again), so a whole lot of reading these days, which is easy on the denim).Really looking forward to seeing your progress in the upcoming Indigo Invitational! Did you already decide on a pair?
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@Mister_Brue What sort of work do you do to get these fades in such a short amount of time?!
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@Mister_Brue said in IH-1955S - 21oz Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
Yes, they’ve pleasantly surprised me. I’m looking at the 822’s for IIV. Maybe the knees will last six months?
The 822s are probably your best bet. Though I kind of doubt they'll last a full year. Someone should convince Haraki to make som triple knee jeans for you.
(And I think I have to reassess the pair you wore in the last II, I don't think any pair of jeans would have survived)
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@Oaktavia said in IH-1955S - 21oz Selvedge Denim "1955" Vintage Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
@scooter those look marvelous Scott. It would be cool to see the back of them too!
Sorry, Stevie. I meant to share this sooner, but life got in the way...
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Here's 1955 and 888 to compare. Thought folks would think this is interesting. Posted it in another thread, but figured it fit here too...
Tried to make the pics as similar as possible. Size 32 1955 21oz indigo vs Size 33 888 21oz indigo; both are hemmed to 30". Very similar fit, but 888 narrows at the knee, which changes the shape of the entire leg. 1955 is like a big tube leg (unless you size down, to get a slimmer look). If both were size 33, the difference in appearance would be substantial, as compared to this, which is more subtle. In my assessment overall, though the measurements between 1955 and 888 look close on paper, the 888 has less volume than 1955 in virtually every proportion of the entire jean. I think a size 31 1955 and this size 33 888 would fit me almost the same tbh. Lemme know what you think of this comparison. Many of you probably have more experience with both these cuts than I.
