SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans
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@popvulture we seem to have similar fits. Rise is my new fitting frontier, if there be such a thing. As I'm still learning how all these jeans and fits work, I've mostly focused on leg opening, waist, and the top block. I did not pay attention to the rise until I impulse-bought a pair of Brave Stars outside of my normal fit and found them way too low in the rise. Mid and high-rise for me now.
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@Bobcat-Sig totally hear you on that. 634's 11"-ish zone is kind of the sweet spot for me, as a 12"+ rise is fine but sometimes I almost feel like it's a tad too high when I sit down and it sorta slices into my gut haha.
I have learned, especially with the aforementioned pair of 19Ls, that the back rise is a real one to watch out for. If it's too low, you can really get sort of a wedgie effect if you have any kind of butt. If I'm buying around a size 34, 16" rear rise is perfect, can do 15.6ish.
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@popvulture My man! Yes, same. The 888 in 25oz does feel high on me, but have softened a bit upfront. I find that fit to be a good cold-weather option as it covers more of the backside.
Out of curiosity since I'm a new guy here; how are you finding, in general, how front and back-rise measurements relate? I see not all brands or vendors list both, usually only one.
With a lifetime of skiing, hiking, and now motorcycling, sporting a butt is very much my cross to bear. Though my wife loves it, so...
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@popvulture MOAR taper!
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@Bobcat-Sig said in SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans:
Out of curiosity since I'm a new guy here; how are you finding, in general, how front and back-rise measurements relate? I see not all brands or vendors list both, usually only one.
not pop, but we've commiserated over this before being in the same camp of needing ~11" minimum in the front and 15.5" minimum in the rear rise.
In general, I'm not sure there is a general rule on how one dimension relates to the other unless both measurements are provided. In some cases, there can be a little, very little imo, give and take between front and rear rises, similar to how a shoulder measurement and a sleeve length can play together, but it's much less forgiving. This will generally change on how the waist sits on your body either angling up/down and how often you'll need to pull your pants up in the back.
I've also found rear rises to stretch with wear pretty reasonably.
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Yep @Bobcat-Sig I definitely agree with everything @pechelman said above ^^^ . It wasn't something I paid a lot of attention to for a good long while, because I really didn't understand why it mattered, but in retrospect I do think it has a lot to do with how the top block fits. A lot of times I'd buy a pair of IH that'd fit well in the waist, but the general top block was just too snug and I'd be thinking "I don't get it — why is this happening?" I don't think the rear rise is everything in that equation, but it's definitely part. I'd say like most dimensions, measure a pair of jeans that fit you really well and try to aim for that. The good thing is like Phil said, you can get a bit of stretch out of it.
My girlfriend would definitely agree about butts! lol. I think that probably has a lot to do with why I don't wear skinnier jeans — if I had chicken legs and a smaller ass, I could definitely pull that off a lot easier, but these are the cards I was dealt
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I am with you guys also. Don't like taper. I think the 634's in general have the most balanced top block in terms of front and back rise. Another unicorn is the 463 that has a front rise slightly lower than the 634 and a back rise that is higher, works out beautifully.
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@popvulture said in SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans:
Yep @Bobcat-Sig I definitely agree with everything @pechelman said above ^^^ . It wasn't something I paid a lot of attention to for a good long while, because I really didn't understand why it mattered, but in retrospect I do think it has a lot to do with how the top block fits. A lot of times I'd buy a pair of IH that'd fit well in the waist, but the general top block was just too snug and I'd be thinking "I don't get it — why is this happening?" I don't think the rear rise is everything in that equation, but it's definitely part. I'd say like most dimensions, measure a pair of jeans that fit you really well and try to aim for that. The good thing is like Phil said, you can get a bit of stretch out of it.
My girlfriend would definitely agree about butts! lol. I think that probably has a lot to do with why I don't wear skinnier jeans — if I had chicken legs and a smaller ass, I could definitely pull that off a lot easier, but these are the cards I was dealt
That helps. Thanks. I sometimes wonder if I over-complicate this as we're talking about garment measurement... and not launching a space shuttle. Still, I work to understand it so I can line my closet with properly fitting denim.
I blame the Viking blood that dominates my half-Scandanavian heritage for needing that big top block and unskinny legs.
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No two people are alike for sure. I've got no rear end and long skinny legs. Without a snug top and a strong taper, a very visually unappealing silhouette ensues. I tried on Wabash(freenote) pants ONCE. Couldn't put them back fast enough.
I wanted them so bad until putting them on. The sales guy at the store in Columbus was hilarious. "Where do those pants stop? They just keep going" 
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@CosmoSix5 The 301’s are a self edge exclusive cut. Here is a thread for the sexih22-301s
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@gmk83 they’ll be posted this week prior to the release and yes, as far as I know they’ll be available online simultaneously.
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@popvulture great thank you
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@sabergirl yikes. Not for me. Thanks!
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FWIW, I think Kiya mentioned that this run of 301 will have a higher rise than the usual 301
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@kiya said in SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans:
@Daniel-San said in SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans:
@kiya
will you post measurements here ?Yes, definitely. We'll post size charts in a few weeks. I've been wearing the 633 for a couple of weeks and love it. We changed both the 633 and 301 slightly from their original forms and gave them both a slightly higher rise.
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Hope the 301 rise increase is only very slight 🫰
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All the measurements are up so everyone can stop asking! Those 42s in indigo look perfect for me!
