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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    It is, it is uber rigid and not being a twill weave does not help either.....

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      Oaktavia
      見習いボス
      Joined: 12 Jun 2019

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      Are these two items made from different Wabash fabrics? The IHC-10 Work Cap seems to be a different type of blue and the bleached dots appear slightly bigger and of a different tint of white. The weft also appears different, with the hat I can see the white dots through the weft while I can't see it with the 227. They are both pretty faded and the shades are quite different.

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      Anyone know if these are different versions of Wabby?

      IG: electricindigowizard

      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        Very possibly. The very first Wabash we did in 2010/11, we made into IH-811. Haraki was not 100% happy with it, so he reworked it and released IH-814 a year or so later. I suspect he used the original wabash for the IHC-10. Certainly looks like it....

        See here for a comparison.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          Oaktavia
          見習いボス
          @Giles
          Joined: 12 Jun 2019

          @Giles said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

          Very possibly. The very first Wabash we did in 2010/11, we made into IH-811. Haraki was not 100% happy with it, so he reworked it and released IH-814 a year or so later. I suspect he used the original wabash for the IHC-10. Certainly looks like it....

          See here for a comparison.

          Ah, okay gotcha G, thanks. As soon as I took the IHC-10 from the box, I thought hmm...this looks different. The way the "regular" Wabash fades is more of a cool toned, darker blue compared to the warmer toned, more dramatic fades of the older one. I think you are correct in your suspicion. Both warp and weft appear to be different from one another.

          IG: electricindigowizard

          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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            CN
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 19 Jan 2019

            Any chance for the 25oz indigo denim to be released in the 1955 cut?

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              flannel slut
              Raw and Unwashed
              @Oaktavia
              Joined: 21 Feb 2022

              @Oaktavia dude. Love how your wabash cap is fading. Almost like a prussian blue with the slight yellow hue

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                Oaktavia
                見習いボス
                @flannel slut
                Joined: 12 Jun 2019

                @flannel-slut said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                @Oaktavia dude. Love how your wabash cap is fading. Almost like a prussian blue with the slight yellow hue

                It was actually given to me by the legendary @Clint_D and it was faded this way out of the box. But yeah, it seems to have a warmer tone compared to the other Wabash that we see much more of around here. It seems to be the old Wabash that was releases first. In person, they look even more different.

                IG: electricindigowizard

                "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                  Clint_D
                  啓蒙家
                  Joined: 5 Jun 2011

                  I'm pretty sure that cap was made from the same wabash as the IHSH-55 run of wabash material like G was saying. I'm pretty sure I have a pair of cut off 811's like Giles' pair somewhere though not nearly as well faded!

                  ATX IH Hoarder

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                    goosehd
                    Mod Squad
                    @CN
                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                    @CN Here is the info from a few days ago:

                    @Alex said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:

                    @Go-For-Chill said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:
                    Has there been any talk of doing a XHS 1955?

                    its been discussed, and it may well happen next XHS factory run

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      RobeOfTheMagi
                      Haraki san Expert
                      Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                      Is there a way you say how old a pair of 634S are when they don't have lined pockets?

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                        goosehd
                        Mod Squad
                        @RobeOfTheMagi
                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                        @RobeOfTheMagi I don’t think there is. Do you want a specific year or just a general time frame?

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          RobeOfTheMagi
                          Haraki san Expert
                          Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                          Rather the last time when the pockets were still unlined. So the youngest reference I guess.

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                            sabergirl
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                            Pretty sure that 634s pockets remain unlined to this day. The pattern just doesn’t call for it.

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                              goosehd
                              Mod Squad
                              Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                              https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/543345

                              Thanks Ann! I’m finding the same through all of my research.

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                RobeOfTheMagi
                                Haraki san Expert
                                Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                                Thank you both :). I did not know that.

                                Edit:

                                But that must mean the indigo version. My black pair has lined pockets (and a selvedge fly).

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                                  Go For Chill
                                  Haraki san Prodigy
                                  Joined: 3 Jan 2025

                                  Shirt tuckers:

                                  Have you had any experience with indigo transferring from the inside of your waistband to your shirt? Do you usually wait until a certain point in the fade-life of your denim before you tuck a white shirt into them?

                                  Really wanting to tuck my new off-white 414 into my jeans so I can wear it to work, but I'd be crushed if it became a tuck-only piece.

                                  "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -Thomas Edison

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                                    Gavin666
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 15 Jan 2024

                                    Leg lengths

                                    I can’t be the only one but are leg lengths getting shorter? I have just washed my 21oz 777 from the latest batch and I can only get a small single cuff. I like to have a Tokyo cuff and could only just manage before a wash and then only with certain footwear otherwise it would look like my trousers were too short! I am 6’2” so not a giant either. Personally would like a minimum of 37”. Seeing as most people seem to get them hemmed judging by secondhand sizes can’t see this being an issue?

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                                      goosehd
                                      Mod Squad
                                      @Gavin666
                                      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                      @Gavin666 I know this has been discussed before and am trying to find the answer for you. Maybe @Giles or @Alex can chime in.

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                        goosehd
                                        Mod Squad
                                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                        One of the answers I've come across regarding the shorter length on the 777's is that having them longer (37") and hemming them affects the overall taper and could be the reason that we are seeing 35.5" lengths. This is pure speculation at this point and will keep reading through the various posts.

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          Gavin666
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          @goosehd
                                          Joined: 15 Jan 2024

                                          @goosehd thanks. I tried too.

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