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    Alex
    IHUK Crew
    @Karol
    Joined: 28 Sept 2009

    @Karol I guess because they were designed to be Western Shirts

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      Karol
      啓蒙家
      @Alex
      Joined: 14 Nov 2022

      @Alex Thanks!! OK, it finally makes sense. I don’t know why but I always thought about them as the CPO type (as it is more of an overshirt).
      I just love how successfully you guys added the handwarmer pockets to most of the CPOs

      Favorite:
      IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
      IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
      IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
      IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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        Mister_Brue
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 31 May 2024
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          Matt
          見習いボス
          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

          It is. Just a clerical error I’m sure.

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            AdamJ
            IHUK Crew
            @Mister_Brue
            Joined: 29 Jun 2017

            @Mister_Brue Good spot! I am working on the new Hall of Fades as we speak. It will be maintained/regularly updated better than the current version.

            Have sorted the above, thanks.

            The devil is in the detail..

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              mrimpractical
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 27 May 2024

              Anybody able to explain the difference between original 14oz and the 142 denim? I know the weft is double-twisted, but wondering how this affects the end product. Based on IG posts it seems that the Japanese market stuck with the original 14oz, curious why that might be.

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                They did not stick with the original, they decided to stay with the original nomenclature, even though the denim changed. Alex and I decided to append the 2, so it was a distinct product variant. The double twist gives heft but not weight and makes the denim softer...

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  JohnM
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 7 May 2014

                  888s vs. 1955s

                  The 888s has more taper from the knee down, but how do these cuts compare in the top block? I've heard the 1955s has a slightly higher rise, but am interested in understanding any other differences. Thanks, John

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                    goosehd
                    Mod Squad
                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                    @ShopatIronHeart

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      Bailey
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 30 Mar 2022

                      @JohnM the 1955 and the 888 are very similar, the 1955's are slightly higher in the rise and wider in the leg.

                      Comparison of the main cuts found here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

                      @bailey_ironheart

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                        Alex
                        IHUK Crew
                        @Bailey
                        Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                        @Bailey said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                        @JohnM the 1955 and the 888 are very similar, the 1955's are slightly higher in the rise and wider in the leg.

                        Comparison of the main cuts found here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

                        You can also do comparisons on the website, see here:
                        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/7686

                        I've done one for you, see here:
                        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/module/leofeature/productscompare?list=230,1478

                        Some tag sizes visible below:

                        Screenshot 2025-01-02 at 19.36.35.png

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                          JohnM
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 7 May 2014

                          ^ Thanks Bailey and Alex. I was just comparing sizes 35 and 36 in these two cuts (though it applies to all sizes). The waist is quite a bit larger on the 1955s compared with the 888s -- more than 1" larger. Curious if you might know why this is. Based on the charts, one could easily size down in the 1955s compared to the 888s -- agree?

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                            IRONGARR
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 30 Dec 2024

                            Ideas for what I could use for a new fade comp
                            Weights, denim types, item types ....any advice is welcome

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                              Alex
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                              When comparing jeans, compare actual waist to actual waist as best you can. Our jeans vary run to run, due to human error, so sometimes the actual waist doesn’t match the tag size

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                                Tago Mago
                                Mod Squad
                                @IRONGARR
                                Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                                @IRONGARR welcome to the forum. FYI I have moved your post to this thread.

                                Take a look at the cut comparison to get an idea of the different core cuts:

                                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

                                Ideally, you want to measure a pair of denim that fits you well, as described here:

                                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/how-we-measure-bottoms

                                As far as denim weight goes, the 21oz is a great place to start imo. Check out the Indigo Invitational threads from past years for additional ideas and inspiration:

                                https://www.ironhearteu.com/forum/category/36/heavy-weight-contests-competitions

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                                  JohnM
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  @Alex
                                  Joined: 7 May 2014

                                  @Alex Got it -- there is variation from run to run and you guys have been great at providing actual measurements -- appreciated.

                                  Would you attribute the chart waist differential between the 888s and 1955s mostly to this (run to run variation) or would you guess the 1955s's waist does tend to run larger than the 888s's? Just curious, no problem if there's no way to know.

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                                    Alex
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                    No, It is not by design. It will either be run to run variance or the fact that a sample was approved when its waist was not the correct size without that being noticed and it’s continued from there.

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                                      Subprime
                                      Haraki san Student
                                      @JoshC
                                      Joined: 13 Sept 2022

                                      @JoshC I'd 100% buy a 21oz cap

                                      Look for what you notice, but no one else sees

                                      WTB: Pale Rider XL | IHSH-399-ORA XL | IHSH-189-BRN L | IH-814-IND 32

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                                        ManiacLachy
                                        Haraki san Student
                                        Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                                        How should you size a trucker jacket to fit? How do you all feel it should fit, generally? Loose and baggy, or slim and fitted?

                                        I'm eyeing the IH-526-ODG and trying to work out my size. I feel a trucker should fit quite slim to the body, but with enough room to wear a layer like a flannel underneath. I don't have to button up over a layer often, it rarely gets that cold here - I'm so jealous of you all layered up in cold snowy conditions while I'm sweating in shorts and a t-shirt.

                                        I've got an old Jean Shop type III (un-modified) trucker, that's only just too small. It's OK open or with just a thin t-shirt, but if I wear a flannel or sweater as a layer and do the jacket up, it's like a sausage casing and pulling across the chest.

                                        The Jean Shop has a P2P of 22.25" and a shoulder of 19.5". I'm thinking the IH-526-ODG in XXXL is about right for me with a P2P of 22.7" and shoulder of 20.7". Would that give me that little extra room for layering and movement, but not get too loose? Would it still be too tight? I think the 4XL is too big in comparison, especially in the other measurements.

                                        Final thought, I just picked up the IHSH-372-BRN in XXL (my first IH piece), measured P2P of 23.25" and shoulder of 20", fit's pretty perfectly. How do you size your heavy flannels vs a Type III? Is it normal to go for a smaller P2P on the trucker than the flannel?

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                                          ManiacLachy
                                          Haraki san Student
                                          Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                                          @Mister_Brue the 372 is pretty spot on. I could lose a few fractions of an inch on the P2P, but not much.

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