Just picked up an XL at Self Edge SF and love it. I expected to be an L, given I wear XL in IH shirts and most have said to size down on the N1. But XL is a really nice fit -- a little big with a tee shirt but perfect with a long sleeve shirt or flannel.

Appreciate that IH chose not to line the sleeves with alpaca. The quilted satin lining is perfect -- less bulky and more comfortable. Do wish the interior pocket was a little bigger but still glad it's there.

To their credit, Iron Heart makes jeans for different body types and preferences. I’ve always looked and felt better with higher rise pants. Some guys are the exact opposite. The 888 and 1955 are a dream fit for me up top — similar but not identical. The 634 sits lower but is surprisingly comfortable, probably due to the top block shape and front/back rise differential.

On skinnier guys with no arse, higher rise jeans can sag down and result in diaper butt. On guys that are fuller up top (like me), low rise jeans feel like they’re falling off. Thankfully, this isn’t the case with the 888 or 1955, or even the 634.

Thanks selbstzweck. The 19 does look very practical, but, yes, more basic and less sauce! There are quite a few bags that resemble the 19 but not too many like the 37.

Looks really nice. But can't justify with this heavyweight from years past:

https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/3397/self-edge-x-iron-heart-type-iii-sexih22typeiii

Looking forward to the 1955s-21 too -- anyone know if these are days, weeks, or months out?

Ah, Giles just said 'soon' in another thread!

Surgery? Hope it goes well. Love the bag. Torn between it and the waist bag.

^ Got it. I don't have long arms, but am OK with the longish sleeves on my Olive N-1 in XL from late 2023.

I wonder if the sizing gets tweaked a little each year (not just this year, but in the past). I remember trying on a Large in 2022 and the arms were very long relative to the rest of the jacket. I figured the IH N-1 just didn't work for me. But a year later (October 2023), I tried on an Olive XL and it was perfect. I was fortunate to have a store nearby (Self Edge) to try one one. Measurements are key, but a little tricky with a bulky item like this.

I have a pair of 888s-18oz. in size 35 that have stretched to a comfortable, trim fit. Waist started out at 34.5" and is now 35.5" after about two weeks of wear. I wouldn't want them any trimmer across the waist or hips, but the fit is good.

I'm considering a pair of 888s-UHR and am trying to decide between size 35 and 36. While I could see sticking with the same size (35) and waiting for stretch, I'm wondering if 36 may be a better option with this thicker, heavier duty denim. If they're a bit big after a warm soak, might a warm wash and few minutes in the dryer (sacrilege of sacrileges) bring them in a bit more?

Would love to see this one again.

Good to know Matt -- it did cross my mind that too small in UHR is not a good thing -- ouch Also good to know that UHR stretches back to, but not beyond, original measurements. Different for once-washed 21 or 18oz., of course, which will go past original under pressure.

For those with experience, would you expect ANY inseam shrinkage at all with these overdyed jeans, even with a warm wash and time in the dryer? I know the dryer is ill advised, but sometimes they have a mind of their own and end up there ...

Quick question: Does the overdye process change the texture of the denim (e.g., softer)?

^ Thanks, yes, I've learned that it's always best to trust measurements over tagged size. What I found interesting about my 888s-21OD experience is that it seemed the OD process tightened everything up a bit, not just the waist but legs too. So sizing up worked well. That said, the posted measurements for the 1955s-142OD look a little more generous, so I'll just let the staff know what I'm looking for, rather than focus on the tag.

Do I have it right that these will not shrink (even after washing and light drying) due to the overdye process and they'll also stretch out up to an inch with wear?

I have one other IH overdyed pair -- the 88s-21OD. I originally bought the same tag size as my other IH jeans, but found them to be trimmer than usual, in the waist and everywhere else. I ended up selling them and going one size up, which worked out perfectly. Love the overdyed look and feel but want to get the size right, as we all do.

Is the smaller zipper on top or in the back? What fits there?

I bought the black version and like it quite a lot. A bit smaller than I thought it would be, but that may be a good thing. Would love to hear from others who own this bag or the waist bag -- similar size but a different design.

Would love to see this one again.

Sounds like the waist bag is a hair smaller, not to mention an altogether different shape. Do you have the waist bag worn2fade?

Surgery? Hope it goes well. Love the bag. Torn between it and the waist bag.

For those familiar with the IH waist bag, do you prefer it in 12 or 21oz?