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    goosehd
    Mod Squad
    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

    @ShopatIronHeart

    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      Bailey
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 30 Mar 2022

      @JohnM the 1955 and the 888 are very similar, the 1955's are slightly higher in the rise and wider in the leg.

      Comparison of the main cuts found here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

      @bailey_ironheart

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        Alex
        IHUK Crew
        @Bailey
        Joined: 28 Sept 2009

        @Bailey said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

        @JohnM the 1955 and the 888 are very similar, the 1955's are slightly higher in the rise and wider in the leg.

        Comparison of the main cuts found here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

        You can also do comparisons on the website, see here:
        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/7686

        I've done one for you, see here:
        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/module/leofeature/productscompare?list=230,1478

        Some tag sizes visible below:

        Screenshot 2025-01-02 at 19.36.35.png

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          JohnM
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 7 May 2014

          ^ Thanks Bailey and Alex. I was just comparing sizes 35 and 36 in these two cuts (though it applies to all sizes). The waist is quite a bit larger on the 1955s compared with the 888s -- more than 1" larger. Curious if you might know why this is. Based on the charts, one could easily size down in the 1955s compared to the 888s -- agree?

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            IRONGARR
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 30 Dec 2024

            Ideas for what I could use for a new fade comp
            Weights, denim types, item types ....any advice is welcome

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              Alex
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 28 Sept 2009

              When comparing jeans, compare actual waist to actual waist as best you can. Our jeans vary run to run, due to human error, so sometimes the actual waist doesn’t match the tag size

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                Tago Mago
                Mod Squad
                @IRONGARR
                Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                @IRONGARR welcome to the forum. FYI I have moved your post to this thread.

                Take a look at the cut comparison to get an idea of the different core cuts:

                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

                Ideally, you want to measure a pair of denim that fits you well, as described here:

                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/how-we-measure-bottoms

                As far as denim weight goes, the 21oz is a great place to start imo. Check out the Indigo Invitational threads from past years for additional ideas and inspiration:

                https://www.ironhearteu.com/forum/category/36/heavy-weight-contests-competitions

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                  JohnM
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  @Alex
                  Joined: 7 May 2014

                  @Alex Got it -- there is variation from run to run and you guys have been great at providing actual measurements -- appreciated.

                  Would you attribute the chart waist differential between the 888s and 1955s mostly to this (run to run variation) or would you guess the 1955s's waist does tend to run larger than the 888s's? Just curious, no problem if there's no way to know.

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                    Alex
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                    No, It is not by design. It will either be run to run variance or the fact that a sample was approved when its waist was not the correct size without that being noticed and it’s continued from there.

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                      Subprime
                      Haraki san Student
                      @JoshC
                      Joined: 13 Sept 2022

                      @JoshC I'd 100% buy a 21oz cap

                      Look for what you notice, but no one else sees

                      WTB: Pale Rider XL | IHSH-399-ORA XL | IHSH-189-BRN L | IH-814-IND 32

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                        ManiacLachy
                        Haraki san Student
                        Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                        How should you size a trucker jacket to fit? How do you all feel it should fit, generally? Loose and baggy, or slim and fitted?

                        I'm eyeing the IH-526-ODG and trying to work out my size. I feel a trucker should fit quite slim to the body, but with enough room to wear a layer like a flannel underneath. I don't have to button up over a layer often, it rarely gets that cold here - I'm so jealous of you all layered up in cold snowy conditions while I'm sweating in shorts and a t-shirt.

                        I've got an old Jean Shop type III (un-modified) trucker, that's only just too small. It's OK open or with just a thin t-shirt, but if I wear a flannel or sweater as a layer and do the jacket up, it's like a sausage casing and pulling across the chest.

                        The Jean Shop has a P2P of 22.25" and a shoulder of 19.5". I'm thinking the IH-526-ODG in XXXL is about right for me with a P2P of 22.7" and shoulder of 20.7". Would that give me that little extra room for layering and movement, but not get too loose? Would it still be too tight? I think the 4XL is too big in comparison, especially in the other measurements.

                        Final thought, I just picked up the IHSH-372-BRN in XXL (my first IH piece), measured P2P of 23.25" and shoulder of 20", fit's pretty perfectly. How do you size your heavy flannels vs a Type III? Is it normal to go for a smaller P2P on the trucker than the flannel?

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                          ManiacLachy
                          Haraki san Student
                          Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                          @Mister_Brue the 372 is pretty spot on. I could lose a few fractions of an inch on the P2P, but not much.

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                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            @ManiacLachy
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            @ManiacLachy Sizing is all dependant on each run and how the measurements come out for that specific release. I have many UHF’s and Type III’s that are the same tag size (but the shoulder and chest measurement’s) are different.

                            For each item, I look at the measurements and say if I want to size up or size down. For example:

                            You say that your 372 with a P2P or 23.25 and shoulder of 20” fits perfectly. A type III with the same measurement would be tight over the UHF and therefore I would size up if I was going to layer. If only wearing over a T-shirt you may be fine keeping the same tag size.

                            You have a great starting point where you know how you want your shirts to fit. Now the key is to figure out if you want the same in a jacket or a looser fit.

                            Use those measurements (from the 372) and work from there.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              ManiacLachy
                              Haraki san Student
                              Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                              Thanks @Mister_Brue and @goosehd

                              I'm definitely looking at the measurements and comparing to what I have, rather than going simply by tag size. I feel the XXXL is right for me, when compared to how my Jean Shop fits. I did a layer test with the 372 and the Jean Shop a few minutes ago, I can button it up, it's tight though and I wouldn't plan to wear it that way. If I got caught out in an unexpectedly colder situation it would work though.

                              I guess I was looking to see how aimed for their trucker fit vs flannel, and for some peace of mind that I wasn't wildly off base in my comparisons.

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                                tody
                                啓蒙家
                                @ManiacLachy
                                Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                                @ManiacLachy That jacket is known to be cut exceptionally slim. I have the 3XL, and it‘s still tight.

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                                  ManiacLachy
                                  Haraki san Student
                                  @tody
                                  Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                                  @tody For sure! Most other items I'm looking at I think XL is the right tag, but with this I'm starting at the 3XL. Do you have another item, a heavy flannel or a denim shirt size that fits you that I can use as a reference for my own sizing?

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                                    Freeman
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    @ManiacLachy
                                    Joined: 9 Jan 2023

                                    @ManiacLachy reading this, I would say that getting a XXXL in the IH-526-ODG sounds like its a good idea.

                                    I would see how your Jean Shop jacket feels with a UHF or something similar underneath. As the chest on the 526 is only around half an inch bigger, this should give you a really good idea if you need a XXXXL for layering with the UHF.

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                                      tody
                                      啓蒙家
                                      @ManiacLachy
                                      Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                                      @ManiacLachy I‘m a solid XXL in almost everything shirts, an 46/XXXL in Type3s. I can just about button up this one over a light flannel.

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                                        ManiacLachy
                                        Haraki san Student
                                        @Freeman
                                        Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                                        @Freeman thanks for chiming in. I did try the Jean Shop buttoned up over the UHF, doable, but only just, and not something I'd plan to wear. Unbuttoned it's OK.

                                        @tody Thanks for the reference, sounds like you might be just a little bigger than me.

                                        I think the 3XL is the go for me, might include a note for one with a chest on the larger side to see what's on hand. Thanks for all the input guys!

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                                          ManiacLachy
                                          Haraki san Student
                                          Joined: 3 Dec 2024

                                          Well, order has been placed for 3XL ... and a couple of extras. I'll update in relevant threads once I have them. Cheers all.

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