IH-888-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@Bren:
@Paul9221 stumbled upon the new products portion of the forum am am now realizing that you are not talking on restocks in Type 3s. This hurts my brain. Do you have experience in either the UHR or lefty and how they differ? Sounds like I’ll need to budget accordingly indeed.
LOL, no worries! I don't have any experience with the 19oz lefty denim that I know of (I'm pretty sure I don't own anything with that fabric), but I do have some experience with the 21/23oz UHR, at least the last iteration (I don't know if anything's changed in this round). The UHR is something amazing. For me, it was a fast fader and it faded in such a lovely way.
Check these forum threads out:
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Good looking out @Paul9221 blanket-lined fist bump
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Hey Guys,
I’m looking at finally buying a pair of IH’s to go along with my ever growing Denim/Sashiko jacket collection. I’ve worn Naked and Famous Weird Guys for years but the cuts just really don’t work for me. They are tight in the thighs and probably too low a rise for me, because of this I have very limited range of motion in them and tend to blow out crotches quickly.
Because of this, my research has brought me to the 888’s and 634’s. IMO the 888 is probably better suited for me due to a higher rise and roomier thigh.
My problem is sizing. Using IH’s guide my Naked and Famous that are labelled as 34’s are actually a 36 waist. I have a little bit of room in the waist of these jeans currently. The thigh on these ones measures at 12, they are definitely too tight here and I need more room. Throwing a tape around my actual waste I’m roughly 36.5 depending where I measure. I could also probably drop about ten pounds, I won’t be getting any bigger.
So, should I be looking at the 35 or the 36 in this Jean? The 35 waist is 35.3 (smaller than what I currently wear) and the 36 is a 36.4 waist (larger than what I currently wear). Am I better off going smaller and stretching or going bigger and hoping they shrink down a bit? I’d prefer to not have to soak then immediately. What do you guys think? Or should I be looking at a different model or Jean? I liked the 21+ heavyweight stuff.
Thanks!
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@nrtphotos Hey Nick, I can see that you were emailing Bailey about these jeans. I have asked the crew to come back to you with the actual measurements of the last pair of tag 36 via email. If you feel they might be a touch too big, we can continue the conversation from there in terms of looking at different denims and/or the 634 cut.
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Hey @AdamC ,
Yes, Bailey had been quite helpful. I guess I’m just more curious as to the general consensus as to whether it’s better to size down and stretch a bit or have a little extra room. I’ll await the email, thank you!
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@nrtphotos my view would be to try and size them comfortably from the offset, not relying on any stretch or shrinkage. I have gone a bit too small on XHS before with the view of stretching them and it was unpleasant. Everyone has different thresholds of course but although very rewarding, the 25oz is super tough and stubborn to break in
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@nrtphotos I have a recent pair of 888XHS, you have probably seen my photos in the recent pages.
My advice would be to "put in the work" and size down. The thing with the 888 is that it has a higher rise, which makes it tighter across your belly when you size it the same in the waist as a lower rise counterpart.
I have a size 34 in the no lots and the fit great. I bought these in a size 35, knowing that i would need a little room in the waist to account for my body shape. When i got them they were a bit too snug, and my initial thought was that I made a mistake and should have purchased a 36.
However, what i did instead was wear them with the top button undone, and gave my belt and extra notch (you may need to do that anyhow due to the thickness of XHS). This helps to remedy the squeeze you get from tight fitting XHS denim, especially the high rise 888 cut. After 30-40 wears (I did not do an initial soak), they became soft enough to be able to wear all day fully buttoned up and stretched enough in the waist for the perfect fit. It took some work, but I'm glad I didn't purchase a 36 for the initial comfort, as not I have the perfect pair of heavyweight jeans.
full disclosure: i also purchased a $30 denim stretcher to help the process along, and kept the jeans on the stretcher when i wasn't wearing them.
I would do the entire thing over again.
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Hmm, the answers are split down the middle! I’ll await the measurement on the last pair, I kind of hope they are slightly under the posted size!
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Hey @nrtphotos, I've just had a measure of the tag 36 for you and I've just sent you an email.
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Hmm, the answers are split down the middle! I’ll await the measurement on the last pair, I kind of hope they are slightly under the posted size!
People are different and body shapes are different. The XHS is pretty gnarly stuff, and some people prize comfort over everything.
I’m of the opinion that comfort is desirable after some necessary discomfort. Then you get comfort and fit.
Assuming the W35 comes in as stated, and that 36” is your target, then a pair at 35.4” will stretch out without a doubt, especially if you don’t soak. If you do they will get there in the end but take a little longer.
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Don't bother measuring your actual waist, measure a pair of jeans that fit you well according to how IH does it.
My 2cents (I just bought a pair of these):
Started out at 35.75", shrank to about 35.25" after a machine wash and stretched out to 36" after wearing for a few days. My targeted size was 36", maybe they'll end up being a tad large, oh well that's what belts are for. Even in their shrunken state the jeans weren't that uncomfortable and quickly stretched out.
As others have said you can go a little smaller in the 888 because of the higher rise. I started out at 36" in my pair of 21oz 888s and they stretched to 37" pretty quickly. I wish I'd started out an inch smaller, thinking I'll try and shrink the waist in really hot water. But, that's why man invented the belt.
So, try em on out of the bag, if they fit (or are a tad snug), wash em and they'll be tight for a bit and will stretch back to to where they were or a bit larger. Easy peasy.
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Would anyone be willing to give a little breakdown of a 21oz denim vs this 25oz? I have the 21oz 888 OD and really thinking about picking up a pair of these 25oz. Wondering more about how they denim feels once it’s broken in and how it fades vs the 21 oz OD. Much appreciated!!
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XHS is amazing, and eventually becomes the softest denim you’ve ever worn. It takes a lot of work to get to that point. 21oz and especially the OD is very soft right away. The fades on OD are more subdued than both.
I would advise reading back in some of the older forum threads about XHS—all the reviews and descriptions you could ever want are there.
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Thanks @sabergirl I’ve read every thread on the 888 XHS and a lot of the others. Haha. Sometimes things all start to blur together. I kinda figured I had it easy with the OD haha. The XHS sounds like it will be far and away the most breaking in I’ll ever have to do to get to the sweet spot. By the sounds of it it will be so very worth it!
I guess what I’m kind of curious about is once both the 888 and the XHS are full broke, are they unique enough to one another to justify having both?
