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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

Ultra Heavy Raw (UHR), AKA 21/23oz Denim

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    Filthy2123ozjunkie
    見習いボスー
    Joined: 21 Jan 2013

    You planning on washing them in a machine ever? My last pair of UHR I soaked three times but I never washed them in the washer.

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      Jcaz6996
      啓蒙家
      Joined: 11 Sept 2020

      No pal I’ll just soak in the tub or a wash with samurai soap when the times right .

      IG : @luvthefades

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        weftyarn
        Iron Heart Deity
        Joined: 8 Nov 2020

        What a score, @Jcaz6996 ! Looking forward to seeing fades. 👊🏼

        Use it or lose it.

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          Jcaz6996
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 11 Sept 2020

          I know @weftyarn ,Emil definitely grateful to be wearing the sample 555’s
          Looking forward to seeing some evo 👊

          IG : @luvthefades

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            louisbosco
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 21 Feb 2013

            @Filthy:

            You planning on washing them in a machine ever? My last pair of UHR I soaked three times but I never washed them in the washer.

            the more you wash, the better the contrast will be. from my previous pair, the contrast was insane. and I washed it 6 or so times during a 2 year stint

            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

            • Harvey Specter
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              Matt
              見習いボス
              Joined: 4 Oct 2011

              A good hot machine wash will also help to get all the shrinkage out.  They look great.  Congratulations on the score.  UHR have been my fastest faders.

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                Jcaz6996
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                Day 3

                Enjoying the experience the fit is roomier then my other bunch of 555’s I have but I quite like the extra room no restrictions working in them .

                Thanks for all the advice with Washing 👍  with my XHSib went 6 months before I gave them a soapy soak in the bath aiming at doing the same with these unless recommended otherwise?

                IG : @luvthefades

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                  Filthy2123ozjunkie
                  見習いボスー
                  Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                  @Jcaz6996:

                  Thanks for all the advice with Washing 👍  with my XHSib went 6 months before I gave them a soapy soak in the bath aiming at doing the same with these unless recommended otherwise?

                  It is possible for the UHR to shrink almost 3cm vertically with a machine wash. So this is why I asked about if you're going to wash it or not. But I wouldn't do anything you don't want to do because your fades are so great. You do you.

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                    Jcaz6996
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                    Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                    Cheers Mike ,Happy with the length made that minor mistake with my XHSib got them hemmed to 34.5 never did a initial soak break in period was brutal wore for 6 months before they touched water and shrunk 1” lucky no effects on the fades but lost the length . Lesson learned

                    After indigo invitational finished started on a pair XHS with a initial soak and they felt grate from to start and the length is spot on.

                    I’ll have to measure the UHR and see what there at.

                    IG : @luvthefades

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                      Filthy2123ozjunkie
                      見習いボスー
                      Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                      What I mean is if you don't plan on washing them to shrink them now, then don't do it ever. Because the shift would be very drastic. If they shrink 3cm then the creases will be 3cm off after a wash because of the loss in length.

                      I had two pairs of UHR and my first pair I washed to shrink and it got some marbling. This is why I built a small washing machine out of 5 gallon buckets. So for my next pair I can shrink them and try to mitigate any skewing and twisting in the washer.
                      https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16554.msg712160#msg712160
                      My second pair I did two hot soaks before I even tried them on or wore them, and they haven't seen water since and never will.

                      But please don't listen to my advice and just wear them like you planed on. I kind of regret bringing it up now because I don't want to create any FUD (fear, uncertainty, and despair)

                      But everyone has their own way they like to do stuff and that's okay. I just like how the denim feels when it is raw and crispy so this is why I do all the weird things I do.  I also love high contrast fades from an aesthetic standpoint… But I don't necessarily like them more than a vintage fade for wearing them all the time (because it is not as loud).

                      This being said the official word is:
                      @Giles:

                      Denim Sailor.  With this particular denim/jean, if you do not soak you will have them falling apart within 2 months.  You need to get rid of some of the starch and bed the constructional threads into the denim.  If you do not the denim is so abrasive that the constructional threads will abrade through.  I promise you, if you don't do this (and I have one very disappointed customer who thought he knew better), you too will be very disappointed….G

                      @Giles:

                      I always do it the Haraki way:

                      The following is Haraki’s advice on how to treat your Ih-634SR before you wear them:
                      "This denim is not processed. It will shrink and skew. I have made this pattern "shrink to fit", after washing or soaking a couple of times it will shrink to tag-size
                      When you get your jeans, soak them in a bath tub of cold water overnight. Turn them inside out and then wash them in a washing machine at no hotter than 30 degrees C, you do not need washing powder or detergent
                      Don't spin too fast and don't put them in a tumble dryer, it is far better to allow them to air dry (still inside-out) in the sun, try to smooth all wrinkles in the fabric before the jeans get too dry
                      After the initial soak, the leg will shrink about 2", after the wash, there will be further shrinkage of about 1". So in total you will get about 3" shrinkage. Please bear this in mind if you are hemming before washing”

                      On subsequent washes, always wash inside out and do not spin too fast or tumble dry.

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          LewisStonehouse
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                          Joined: 11 May 2020

                          @Giles:

                          @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                          🤤🤤🤤

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                            neph93
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                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            @Jcaz6996:

                            the fit is roomier then my other bunch of 555’s I have but I quite like the extra room no restrictions working in them .

                            This has been my experience with all the UHR I have had. I suspect it is a result of the unique nature of the denim when raw.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
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                              Kasi
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                              Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                              @Giles

                              Will the leather patches be new design, or the previous one.
                              Thanks

                              The world's insane
                              While you drink champagne
                              And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                Oaktavia
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                                Joined: 12 Jun 2019

                                @Giles:

                                @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                                Oh dude!

                                IG: electricindigowizard

                                "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                                  atm23
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 30 Apr 2014

                                  @Giles:

                                  @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                                  Whoop Whoop! Cant wait!

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                                    Alex
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                    @Kasi:

                                    @Giles

                                    Will the leather patches be new design, or the previous one.
                                    Thanks

                                    We are running with the same patch as before

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                                      kkibbey23
                                      Haraki san Prodigy
                                      Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                                      @Alex:

                                      @Kasi:

                                      @Giles

                                      Will the leather patches be new design, or the previous one.
                                      Thanks

                                      We are running with the same patch as before

                                      Great news!! I love that patch and tonal arcs are a sure fire win

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                                        Filthy2123ozjunkie
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                                        Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                                        I agree with the above statement  🙂

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                                          Simon
                                          Joined: 5 Mar 2010

                                          Giles & Alex have very kindly found me a sample pair of 888 in the re-launched UHR denim Here are my initial thoughts on these before I put some wear into them:
                                          These are tagged 35 waist and have been expertly hemmed to 31 inches in length.
                                          My pre-soak raw measurements are:
                                          Waist: 34.75
                                          Leg: 31
                                          FR: 12.5
                                          RR: 17
                                          Thigh: 13.75
                                          Knee: 9.5
                                          Hem 9
                                          Weight: 1.25Kg
                                          Denim is slightly lighter in shade than the XHS in the pics (also raw unworn)
                                          Out if interest the XHS 888 in the pictures are 40” waist 31 leg and also weigh 1.25kg.
                                          The detailing on these sample jeans is amazing! I’m loving the bronze buttons as seen on the original 2010 21/23 oz 634SR jeans. Selvedge fly details -check, fully lined rear pockets – check, hidden selvedge on coin pocket – check, perfect stitching - check.
                                          I’d like to put a request in here for 100% cotton stitching on the back pocket arcs, as per the original 634SR’s?

                                          Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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