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Ultra Heavy Raw (UHR), AKA 21/23oz Denim

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    the246guy
    Haraki san Prodigy
    Joined: 8 May 2016

    What is the difference between the UHR and the XHS? Would be interested to know.

    IH-555N | IH-666S-21 | IH-777D | IH-666 XHS | IHG-035 | IHB-06 | IH-721-KHA
    IHSH-251 | IHSH-07 | IHSH-246 * 2

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      neph93
      見習いボス
      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      @the246guy:

      What is the difference between the UHR and the XHS? Would be interested to know.

      Weight, hand, weave, colour, shrinkage, evo… they’re as different as two pairs of five pocket indigo denim jeans can be.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        Jcaz6996
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 11 Sept 2020

        With the initial soak out the way and Day 1 over and done with I can say these UHR feel incredible after wearing 555-XHSIB & XHS for the past 18 months which take some breaking in these feel comfortable
        Fit feels quite similar to my 555s-SBG not as soft but pretty close.

        IG : @luvthefades

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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          What a great fit!

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            J-IV
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 19 Oct 2011

            Agreed, the fit looks close good!
            Crazy to see some indigo fades peaking through already.

            I'm as ugly as you

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              Jcaz6996
              啓蒙家
              Joined: 11 Sept 2020

              Cheers @neph93 👍
              tad big in the waist but apart from that 👌

              IG : @luvthefades

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                Jcaz6996
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                Cheers @J-IV
                I thought the same 30min ride on my HD to get to tintern abbey where the pics taken a coffee & some cake with the family and a ride back.

                IG : @luvthefades

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                  Filthy2123ozjunkie
                  見習いボスー
                  Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                  @Jcaz6996 seeing how you have some of the best fades I've ever seen… I'm glad to see you have the sample. They look great on ya.

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                    Jcaz6996
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                    @Filthy thanks bud really appreciate it 👍

                    IG : @luvthefades

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                      Filthy2123ozjunkie
                      見習いボスー
                      Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                      You planning on washing them in a machine ever? My last pair of UHR I soaked three times but I never washed them in the washer.

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                        Jcaz6996
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                        No pal I’ll just soak in the tub or a wash with samurai soap when the times right .

                        IG : @luvthefades

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                          weftyarn
                          Iron Heart Deity
                          Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                          What a score, @Jcaz6996 ! Looking forward to seeing fades. 👊🏼

                          Use it or lose it.

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                            Jcaz6996
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                            I know @weftyarn ,Emil definitely grateful to be wearing the sample 555’s
                            Looking forward to seeing some evo 👊

                            IG : @luvthefades

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                              louisbosco
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                              @Filthy:

                              You planning on washing them in a machine ever? My last pair of UHR I soaked three times but I never washed them in the washer.

                              the more you wash, the better the contrast will be. from my previous pair, the contrast was insane. and I washed it 6 or so times during a 2 year stint

                              "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                              • Harvey Specter
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                                Matt
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                A good hot machine wash will also help to get all the shrinkage out.  They look great.  Congratulations on the score.  UHR have been my fastest faders.

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                                  Jcaz6996
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                                  Day 3

                                  Enjoying the experience the fit is roomier then my other bunch of 555’s I have but I quite like the extra room no restrictions working in them .

                                  Thanks for all the advice with Washing 👍  with my XHSib went 6 months before I gave them a soapy soak in the bath aiming at doing the same with these unless recommended otherwise?

                                  IG : @luvthefades

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                                    Filthy2123ozjunkie
                                    見習いボスー
                                    Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                                    @Jcaz6996:

                                    Thanks for all the advice with Washing 👍  with my XHSib went 6 months before I gave them a soapy soak in the bath aiming at doing the same with these unless recommended otherwise?

                                    It is possible for the UHR to shrink almost 3cm vertically with a machine wash. So this is why I asked about if you're going to wash it or not. But I wouldn't do anything you don't want to do because your fades are so great. You do you.

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                                      Jcaz6996
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 11 Sept 2020

                                      Cheers Mike ,Happy with the length made that minor mistake with my XHSib got them hemmed to 34.5 never did a initial soak break in period was brutal wore for 6 months before they touched water and shrunk 1” lucky no effects on the fades but lost the length . Lesson learned

                                      After indigo invitational finished started on a pair XHS with a initial soak and they felt grate from to start and the length is spot on.

                                      I’ll have to measure the UHR and see what there at.

                                      IG : @luvthefades

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                                        Filthy2123ozjunkie
                                        見習いボスー
                                        Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                                        What I mean is if you don't plan on washing them to shrink them now, then don't do it ever. Because the shift would be very drastic. If they shrink 3cm then the creases will be 3cm off after a wash because of the loss in length.

                                        I had two pairs of UHR and my first pair I washed to shrink and it got some marbling. This is why I built a small washing machine out of 5 gallon buckets. So for my next pair I can shrink them and try to mitigate any skewing and twisting in the washer.
                                        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16554.msg712160#msg712160
                                        My second pair I did two hot soaks before I even tried them on or wore them, and they haven't seen water since and never will.

                                        But please don't listen to my advice and just wear them like you planed on. I kind of regret bringing it up now because I don't want to create any FUD (fear, uncertainty, and despair)

                                        But everyone has their own way they like to do stuff and that's okay. I just like how the denim feels when it is raw and crispy so this is why I do all the weird things I do.  I also love high contrast fades from an aesthetic standpoint… But I don't necessarily like them more than a vintage fade for wearing them all the time (because it is not as loud).

                                        This being said the official word is:
                                        @Giles:

                                        Denim Sailor.  With this particular denim/jean, if you do not soak you will have them falling apart within 2 months.  You need to get rid of some of the starch and bed the constructional threads into the denim.  If you do not the denim is so abrasive that the constructional threads will abrade through.  I promise you, if you don't do this (and I have one very disappointed customer who thought he knew better), you too will be very disappointed….G

                                        @Giles:

                                        I always do it the Haraki way:

                                        The following is Haraki’s advice on how to treat your Ih-634SR before you wear them:
                                        "This denim is not processed. It will shrink and skew. I have made this pattern "shrink to fit", after washing or soaking a couple of times it will shrink to tag-size
                                        When you get your jeans, soak them in a bath tub of cold water overnight. Turn them inside out and then wash them in a washing machine at no hotter than 30 degrees C, you do not need washing powder or detergent
                                        Don't spin too fast and don't put them in a tumble dryer, it is far better to allow them to air dry (still inside-out) in the sun, try to smooth all wrinkles in the fabric before the jeans get too dry
                                        After the initial soak, the leg will shrink about 2", after the wash, there will be further shrinkage of about 1". So in total you will get about 3" shrinkage. Please bear this in mind if you are hemming before washing”

                                        On subsequent washes, always wash inside out and do not spin too fast or tumble dry.

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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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