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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    Ultra Heavy Raw (UHR), AKA 21/23oz Denim

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    • weftyarnW
      weftyarn
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      What a score, @Jcaz6996 ! Looking forward to seeing fades. 👊🏼

      Use it or lose it.

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      • Jcaz6996J
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        I know @weftyarn ,Emil definitely grateful to be wearing the sample 555’s
        Looking forward to seeing some evo 👊

        IG : @luvthefades

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        • louisboscoL
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          @Filthy:

          You planning on washing them in a machine ever? My last pair of UHR I soaked three times but I never washed them in the washer.

          the more you wash, the better the contrast will be. from my previous pair, the contrast was insane. and I washed it 6 or so times during a 2 year stint

          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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          • MattM
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            A good hot machine wash will also help to get all the shrinkage out.  They look great.  Congratulations on the score.  UHR have been my fastest faders.

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            • Jcaz6996J
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              Day 3

              Enjoying the experience the fit is roomier then my other bunch of 555’s I have but I quite like the extra room no restrictions working in them .

              Thanks for all the advice with Washing 👍  with my XHSib went 6 months before I gave them a soapy soak in the bath aiming at doing the same with these unless recommended otherwise?

              IG : @luvthefades

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              • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                @Jcaz6996:

                Thanks for all the advice with Washing 👍  with my XHSib went 6 months before I gave them a soapy soak in the bath aiming at doing the same with these unless recommended otherwise?

                It is possible for the UHR to shrink almost 3cm vertically with a machine wash. So this is why I asked about if you're going to wash it or not. But I wouldn't do anything you don't want to do because your fades are so great. You do you.

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                • Jcaz6996J
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                  Cheers Mike ,Happy with the length made that minor mistake with my XHSib got them hemmed to 34.5 never did a initial soak break in period was brutal wore for 6 months before they touched water and shrunk 1” lucky no effects on the fades but lost the length . Lesson learned

                  After indigo invitational finished started on a pair XHS with a initial soak and they felt grate from to start and the length is spot on.

                  I’ll have to measure the UHR and see what there at.

                  IG : @luvthefades

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                  • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                    What I mean is if you don't plan on washing them to shrink them now, then don't do it ever. Because the shift would be very drastic. If they shrink 3cm then the creases will be 3cm off after a wash because of the loss in length.

                    I had two pairs of UHR and my first pair I washed to shrink and it got some marbling. This is why I built a small washing machine out of 5 gallon buckets. So for my next pair I can shrink them and try to mitigate any skewing and twisting in the washer.
                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16554.msg712160#msg712160
                    My second pair I did two hot soaks before I even tried them on or wore them, and they haven't seen water since and never will.

                    But please don't listen to my advice and just wear them like you planed on. I kind of regret bringing it up now because I don't want to create any FUD (fear, uncertainty, and despair)

                    But everyone has their own way they like to do stuff and that's okay. I just like how the denim feels when it is raw and crispy so this is why I do all the weird things I do.  I also love high contrast fades from an aesthetic standpoint… But I don't necessarily like them more than a vintage fade for wearing them all the time (because it is not as loud).

                    This being said the official word is:
                    @Giles:

                    Denim Sailor.  With this particular denim/jean, if you do not soak you will have them falling apart within 2 months.  You need to get rid of some of the starch and bed the constructional threads into the denim.  If you do not the denim is so abrasive that the constructional threads will abrade through.  I promise you, if you don't do this (and I have one very disappointed customer who thought he knew better), you too will be very disappointed….G

                    @Giles:

                    I always do it the Haraki way:

                    The following is Haraki’s advice on how to treat your Ih-634SR before you wear them:
                    "This denim is not processed. It will shrink and skew. I have made this pattern "shrink to fit", after washing or soaking a couple of times it will shrink to tag-size
                    When you get your jeans, soak them in a bath tub of cold water overnight. Turn them inside out and then wash them in a washing machine at no hotter than 30 degrees C, you do not need washing powder or detergent
                    Don't spin too fast and don't put them in a tumble dryer, it is far better to allow them to air dry (still inside-out) in the sun, try to smooth all wrinkles in the fabric before the jeans get too dry
                    After the initial soak, the leg will shrink about 2", after the wash, there will be further shrinkage of about 1". So in total you will get about 3" shrinkage. Please bear this in mind if you are hemming before washing”

                    On subsequent washes, always wash inside out and do not spin too fast or tumble dry.

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                    • GilesG
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                      @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • LewisStonehouseL
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                        @Giles:

                        @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                        🤤🤤🤤

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                        • neph93N
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                          @Jcaz6996:

                          the fit is roomier then my other bunch of 555’s I have but I quite like the extra room no restrictions working in them .

                          This has been my experience with all the UHR I have had. I suspect it is a result of the unique nature of the denim when raw.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                          • KasiK
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                            @Giles

                            Will the leather patches be new design, or the previous one.
                            Thanks

                            The world's insane
                            While you drink champagne
                            And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                            • OaktaviaO
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                              @Giles:

                              @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                              Oh dude!

                              IG: electricindigowizard

                              "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                              WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                              • atm23A
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                                @Giles:

                                @Alex and I discussed these last night.  The arcs will be tonal….

                                Whoop Whoop! Cant wait!

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                                • AlexA
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                                  @Kasi:

                                  @Giles

                                  Will the leather patches be new design, or the previous one.
                                  Thanks

                                  We are running with the same patch as before

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                                  • K
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                                    @Alex:

                                    @Kasi:

                                    @Giles

                                    Will the leather patches be new design, or the previous one.
                                    Thanks

                                    We are running with the same patch as before

                                    Great news!! I love that patch and tonal arcs are a sure fire win

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                                    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                      I agree with the above statement  🙂

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                                      • SimonS
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                                        Giles & Alex have very kindly found me a sample pair of 888 in the re-launched UHR denim Here are my initial thoughts on these before I put some wear into them:
                                        These are tagged 35 waist and have been expertly hemmed to 31 inches in length.
                                        My pre-soak raw measurements are:
                                        Waist: 34.75
                                        Leg: 31
                                        FR: 12.5
                                        RR: 17
                                        Thigh: 13.75
                                        Knee: 9.5
                                        Hem 9
                                        Weight: 1.25Kg
                                        Denim is slightly lighter in shade than the XHS in the pics (also raw unworn)
                                        Out if interest the XHS 888 in the pictures are 40” waist 31 leg and also weigh 1.25kg.
                                        The detailing on these sample jeans is amazing! I’m loving the bronze buttons as seen on the original 2010 21/23 oz 634SR jeans. Selvedge fly details -check, fully lined rear pockets – check, hidden selvedge on coin pocket – check, perfect stitching - check.
                                        I’d like to put a request in here for 100% cotton stitching on the back pocket arcs, as per the original 634SR’s?

                                        Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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                                        • SimonS
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                                          Soaked for two hours in super hot water straight from the hot tap at around 70 degrees. Then drip dried for two days.
                                          Post-soak measurements are:
                                          Waist: 34.5
                                          Leg: 30.25
                                          FR: 12.25
                                          RR: 16.75
                                          Thigh: 13.7
                                          Knee: 9.5
                                          Hem: 9
                                          Weight 1.25kg
                                          This new version of the UHR doesn’t appear to shrink anywhere near as much as the original, which is probably a good thing all in all, I remember getting nearly 2” of leg shrinkage and nearly an inch in the waist, on the old stuff which made guessing post soak sizing real hard. I also note that there is no noticeable leg skew, where as the old stuff twisted like a crazy, as you can see in the photos. I guess this is a preference thing, personally I like the raw nature of leg skew. I’m geeky enough to have weighed the old 634SR in 34 waist 30” leg at 1.25kg, I’m delighted to see the denim weight is the same between both generations.
                                          If these fade like the original UHR denim the evo on these things is going to be something else as you can see from the two old pairs of mine here. I’ll post some updates on these as the evolve, this denim is the absolute muts nutz, epic to see it coming back in to production.

                                          Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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                                          • SimonS
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                                            Bonus photo with 63SR on top of post soak - new 888 UHR.

                                            Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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