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    • mclaincauseyM
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      Quod. Erat. Demonstrandum.

      Think it, be it.

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      • scooterS
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        https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2021/07/22/among-fully-vaccinated-breakthrough-covid-19-infections-are-more-common-than-previously-thought-does-it-matter/?sh=5a67eec5aefe

        It would appear our highly touted "vaccines" may be no more than glorified antivirals…

        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

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        • tvenutoT
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          @scooter:

          It would appear our highly touted "vaccines" may be no more than glorified antivirals…

          No one has claimed the vaccine is an impenetrable force field, and not being one does not make it a "vaccine." We only THINK vaccines work that way because, once available, past-people promptly got the vaccine in sufficient numbers to stop widespread transmission. It's extremely early to start making declarations of failure ESPECIALLY when we have a large unvaccinated population.  Again, vaccine efficacy is not measured by the outcomes of a single person, but on a whole population, and thus vaccination rate is a critial factor.  Media outlets need clicks, and will phrase things as histrionically as possible to get them, this is known. It's up to us to use our "highly touted" frontal cortexes if we want to live in an organized society.

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          • Clint_DC
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            From the Provincetown, MA town manager where that cluster occured:

            ATX IH Hoarder

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            • tvenutoT
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              I think this is a very important article to read. Society has done a great job of hiding away ugliness, from spiriting away our sewage and trash, up to making sure we never see dead bodies.  This guy no longer has a job (I assume, you Brits can correct me if not):

              Makes it easy to pretend these things aren't really going on, but they are.  The story is an ICU doctor's take on what's going on.  18 months of fatigue in an 8 minute read.

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              • SeulS
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                Finally got my first (Pfizer) shot. Second one's planned for Sep 04.

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                • NikN
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                  Welcome to the cool club

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                  • AppfaffA
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                    Lucky, I wanted Pfizer, but all that was available a few months ago was Moderna for the wife and I..

                    With that said, I was expecting some sort of a reaction, and nada, even with the larger dosing size..

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                    • GilesG
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                      So far, we know of 11 people (including @Alex and Kira) who were at the wedding who have tested positive, most if not all of them were double vaxxed.

                      As far as I am concerned, the moral of this story is that mixing in large groups is still seriously risky, unless you don't mind catching it.  I'm still going to travel when I can, but I will be avoiding large gatherings for the foreseeable….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • neph93N
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                        Shiiiiit…. Sad to hear this. Hope you guys are well, but poor @Alex and Kira. Best wishes for a speedy recovery to you both.

                        As for the status quo, it is quiet in my area but I still mask at shopping centres and stores and will not be getting involved in large gatherings (other than at my work). This despite being double dipped.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
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                        • KasiK
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                          Am having that problem avoiding large gatherings

                          Wedding and funeral

                          Hate both

                          One of my closed friend had both jab still caught it..

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                          The world's insane
                          While you drink champagne
                          And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                          • J
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                            Just curious,did you have to show a negative test result to get back into the UK? I’m guessing no.

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                            • goosehdG
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                              Speedy recovery to all!  This is sad f’n news…  😞

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • GilesG
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                                Yes.  We have to complete what is known as a Passenger Locator Form, it asks for proof of negative test results (within the last 72 hours), vax status, address, proof that you have booked "day 2 test to release" upon return, etc etc etc.  You are not allowed onto the plane without a completed form, it is also loaded electronically and ties into electronic passport control in UK.  If somehow you get onto the plane without having completed the form, you will be denied electronic entry and probably have an "interesting" discussion with Border Force/Immigration officials.

                                All 11 people tested negative before leaving the Bahamas, some started to feel ill on the plane home, some, like Alex, managed to test negative for 3 days or so, but he went positive yesterday…

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  Damn. I’m so sorry to hear this. I hope everyone has a mild case, and a speedy recovery.

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                                  • jordanscollectedJ
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                                    So @Alex  and Kira had a really fun intentional vacation, and are having to follow it up with a not so fun unintentional one. I wish you the best.

                                    I hear more and more news like this re: vaccinated people testing positive.

                                    The Minnesota state fair is still planning to go forward this year. While I never attend anyhow, over 1 million people from the 5 state area normally do. Many of them kids who will be starting back up at school the following week. Could get interesting.

                                    world tours:
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                                    Wabidashery

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                                    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                      I hope everyone is going to be okay. XX

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        The thing is, a year ago, i would have been crapping myself if my loved ones were getting covid, now I'm pretty sanguine about it.

                                        Last December I lost 2 relatives who had not been vaxxed and who contracted it (the only 2 people I then knew who had contracted it).  Now I know about 20 people who have been double-dipped and have caught it, and not one of them has even been hospitalised, let alone died….

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                          Yeah I think if you get it and have been previously vaccinated it's pretty much like a head cold.

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                                          • AlexA
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                                            Thanks all. I am not too bad at all, have bad cold/cough symptoms plus finding it hard to catch my breath sometimes. Kira has it worse, she has the same symptoms as me, but has lost her smell and taste and is super fatigued. Shes basically been sleeping since Monday. She just got prescribed the dexamethasone/azithromycin cocktail so hopefully that helps her recover soon.

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