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    chrisjohnnick
    Iron Heart Deity
    Joined: 7 Jan 2021

    Ha, well yea, mostly just wanted to see if it would be the same stripe thickness and such

    Wants List:
    IHSH-20-Red, XL
    IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
    IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
    IHSW-45 Black, M
    IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
    IH-777S-SB size 32
    IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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      Oaktavia
      見習いボス
      Joined: 12 Jun 2019

      @chrisjohnnick:

      Think I know the answer, but just want to confirm.

      Is the IHSH-07 the same exact fabric as the 807 bibs?

      I would love to have a perfect matching set.

      I wondered this myself and figured you'd be trying to find this out!

      IG: electricindigowizard

      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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        Wouterk
        Joined: 18 Sept 2022

        Hi all,

        Need some sizing help from you more experienced IH wearers! Hope I'm in the right channel.  🙂

        So finally want to pull the trigger and start my adventure with a IH-666-XHS. However, I can't decide between size 33 or 34. I'm especially a bit worried about the part from thigh to knee. I'm usually in a slim/relaxed tapered pair, but this time I would like to go a bit more classic (just not as much yet as the 643). Also would value a little bit more room for topblok and between thigh/knee when sitting down.

        Took some rigorous measures form my best fitting pair (in CM, sorry guys). I'll summarise them, together with the 666 33/34. The thigh of the 666 seems quite narrow, or am I missing something? Does the wider knee still make it more comfortable than tapered models somehow? Please help!

        Denim enthusiast since 2007

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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          @Wouterk:

          Took some rigorous measures form my best fitting pair (in CM, sorry guys). I'll summarise them, together with the 666 33/34. The thigh of the 666 seems quite narrow, or am I missing something? Does the wider knee still make it more comfortable than tapered models somehow? Please help!

          Excellent work with the measurements. Your conclusions are good and the data backs them up. The 666 has a trim top block, leading into a slim upper thigh. But as you surmise the wider leg and limited taper from upper thigh to knee and knee to hem make them more comfortable.

          One thing to consider is that you’re comparing worn jeans with fresh ones. The 666 in 21oz will loosen and stretch meaningfully.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            Wouterk
            Joined: 18 Sept 2022

            @neph93:

            @Wouterk:

            Took some rigorous measures form my best fitting pair (in CM, sorry guys). I'll summarise them, together with the 666 33/34. The thigh of the 666 seems quite narrow, or am I missing something? Does the wider knee still make it more comfortable than tapered models somehow? Please help!

            One thing to consider is that you’re comparing worn jeans with fresh ones. The 666 in 21oz will loosen and stretch meaningfully.

            Thanks for the quick reply! Looking at these measures and considering them stretching, would you opt for size 33?

            Denim enthusiast since 2007

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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              @Wouterk:

              @neph93:

              @Wouterk:

              Took some rigorous measures form my best fitting pair (in CM, sorry guys). I'll summarise them, together with the 666 33/34. The thigh of the 666 seems quite narrow, or am I missing something? Does the wider knee still make it more comfortable than tapered models somehow? Please help!

              One thing to consider is that you’re comparing worn jeans with fresh ones. The 666 in 21oz will loosen and stretch meaningfully.

              Thanks for the quick reply! Looking at these measures and considering them stretching, would you opt for size 33?

              How do your oni’s etc, fit in the thigh? Close, or roomy?

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
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                pechelman
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 24 Jan 2022

                Having very similar jeans to you and also now a few 666's I've found that comparing typical tapered cuts to the straight-narrow cut of the 666 that a tapered cut with a 12.75-13.00" thigh to 8.0-8.5" knees needs about a straight cut of 12.2-12.5" thigh and ~9.0" knee to feel somewhat similar through the mid-thigh. Comfort is relative on either.  The tapered cuts can annoy me at the knee and calf where they can feel tight whereas sometimes the straight cut can feel restricting right at the top of the thigh when lunging, squatting, or trying to double up a flight of stairs. Personally, I prefer the straighter cut and find it more comfortable, but ymmv.

                Given the numbers in your spreadsheet, and given that the XHS will tighten up after your first soak, I'd probably consider a 34 before the 33 mostly based on the thigh/knee ratios noted.  Also I'd possibly suggest you checkout the 633 from selfedge which is a 634 with a little taper from knee to hem. As a somewhat off the wall suggestion, sizing up one size in 666 fits a lot like what I'd imagine a higher-rise slim 634 to feel like….at least that's how my size 35 666-XHSib's fit compared to a set of 33 634s and 633s.  Could be an option for you depending on if you wear belts.

                I also went ahead and did some calculation for you assuming a 4% shrink and converted it for us dumb Americans.  Keep in mind that anything experiencing tension will stretch back out (rises and thighs included....in my experience) but things like the inseam or hem will not. Basically consider the published measurements of the XHS to be where they will stretch to after wear in the waist, rises, and thigh but that the knee, hem, and inseam will be tighter or shorter after soaking/washing.

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                  chrisjohnnick
                  Iron Heart Deity
                  Joined: 7 Jan 2021

                  FWIW, I have some 666XHS that were perfect new with measurements (and compared to my existing worn in denim) and I wish I would have sized down. I usually wear a 34 flat waist and wish I now had a size 33 was it taking in the post stretch and wear measurements like @neph93 says

                  Wants List:
                  IHSH-20-Red, XL
                  IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                  IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                  IHSW-45 Black, M
                  IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                  IH-777S-SB size 32
                  IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    @pechelman more great work. I’m impressed how there’s this tendency towards spreadsheets. Not for me, but I love it.

                    In my experience, XHS does not shrink that much and will stretch out beyond pre-soak dims with wear, like @chrisjohnnick mentions.

                    That being said, I suspect both the w33 and w34 will work, but OP will likely need to consider what kind of fit he wants.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      Wouterk
                      Joined: 18 Sept 2022

                      You guys are amazing for thinking along with me! I have a feeling that the 33 will be the best fit, as long as they stretch enough in the thigh.. That's my only concern. Safest is the 34, especially with initial soak (and the fact they only stock one 34 and still have three 33s). However, with the 34 also concerned to get too much stretching ending up with a massive empty rear. If only there would be a voting system on this forum for you guys to decide with which one to go….  :-\

                      Denim enthusiast since 2007

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                        Jeanmoreau
                        Joined: 19 May 2022

                        When you hang jeans in your closet, do you have to be really careful they are folded on the hanger without creases?

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                          neph93
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                          @Jeanmoreau:

                          When you hang jeans in your closet, do you have to be really careful they are folded on the hanger without creases?

                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                          Nope. But I use S-hooks, partially to about creases.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                          • Virginia Woolf
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                            neph93
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                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            @Wouterk:

                            If only there would be a voting system on this forum for you guys to decide with which one to go….  :-\

                            There is… [emoji16]

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
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                              chrisjohnnick
                              Iron Heart Deity
                              Joined: 7 Jan 2021

                              @Jeanmoreau:

                              When you hang jeans in your closet, do you have to be really careful they are folded on the hanger without creases?

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              I use pattern hooks. Mostly do it so they can air out and such.

                              Wants List:
                              IHSH-20-Red, XL
                              IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                              IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                              IHSW-45 Black, M
                              IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                              IH-777S-SB size 32
                              IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                @Jeanmoreau:

                                When you hang jeans in your closet, do you have to be really careful they are folded on the hanger without creases?

                                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                No, because I throw them on the floor

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  ROman
                                  Haraki san Prodigy
                                  Joined: 5 Jan 2015

                                  I love it…..... 😃 😃 😃

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                                    Bfd70
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 22 Mar 2018

                                    @Jeanmoreau:

                                    When you hang jeans in your closet, do you have to be really careful they are folded on the hanger without creases?

                                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                    They’re jeans.

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                                      sabergirl
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                                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                      This ^^^^[emoji1787]

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                                        Jeanmoreau
                                        Joined: 19 May 2022

                                        Yes they are jeans but they are also the most expensive clothing I own [emoji24]

                                        I’m probably hanging this secondary pair (888xhs) up for months at a time. If there are creases how they hang, won’t those create fade lines in weird places?

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                                          sabergirl
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                                          Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                          They’re by far the most expensive thing I own besides my car, and I haven’t ever noticed any damage from leaving them folded sometimes months at a time in my closet. Unless there’s a lot of pressure or abrasion or sunlight I can’t imagine an issue.

                                          Your mileage may vary, of course. I’m sure that I’ve seen fade lines in pics from folding on jeans that have the kind of dye meant to crock away immediately, but in my experience Iron Hear jeans don’t do that.

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