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    louisbosco
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    @LewisStonehouse yeah I've been mulling it since last year. but at that point decided to stick with the usual. for me, it boils down to if 1 size up is enough or do I need to go 2? but then also, how much difference would that make in terms of the fit..

    "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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      LewisStonehouse
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      Joined: 11 May 2020

      Yeah similar thoughts here, I was thinking one up. The other, better, option (for me at least) is going to be to try and shift my lockdown lard

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        neph93
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        @louisbosco:

        how much difference would that make in terms of the fit..

        Potententially quite a lot of difference I would say. I’m basing this on owning the 888 in two sizes (W34 and W35). The top block and especially leg silhouette are quite different to my eye. I also have the 666 in different sizes and the bigger pair looks more like a 634 on me.

        I’m still happy with the bigger pairs, but they are different.

        Edit: more relevant perhaps, I have the IH463-S in W34 and W36 the same difference is there. That is interesting though because the bigger pair give a silhouette that is much closer to what I assume was intended imho.

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        Are the same that burn crosses”

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          louisbosco
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          I can't say for everyone else. but for me, it's been the 666. that's my perfect fit that I've been used to for the past 4,5 years. so thinking of sizing 1 or even 2 up.

          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

          • Harvey Specter
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            2d
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            Is there a sizing guide for the IH-805? I need some clarification on the tag size to waist numbers.The tag size 36 is actually a 41"? If I wear a 36 IH-666S-21 would the 36 be the recommended size IH-805? Many thanks

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              sabergirl
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              I’d say that would depend on how you want them to fit. Look at the thigh and knee measurements to see how loose or tight tts or a size down will be. They’re supposed to be cut roomy, so I think most folks go true-to-size, and some brave souls size down. I wouldn’t even think of sizing down because of the thigh. That’s going to be your key measurement, as waist won’t tell you much. It just sits in a totally different place than jeans, so is hard to compare.

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                LewisStonehouse
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                As always @sabergirl is dead right, @2d you wouldn’t want the waist of overalls to fit as they would on a pair of jeans because they are kept up my shoulder straps rather than grabbing your waist. I wear a 36 in the 634 and 888 cuts and have a 36 in the 805, it’s a reasonably relaxed fit without being too baggy, which is exactly what I want from them. I’d suggest if you wear a slimmer cut in jeans you’d want to size down 🙂

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                  2d
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                  @LewisStonehouse:

                  As always @sabergirl is dead right, @2d you wouldn’t want the waist of overalls to fit as they would on a pair of jeans because they are kept up my shoulder straps rather than grabbing your waist. I wear a 36 in the 634 and 888 cuts and have a 36 in the 805, it’s a reasonably relaxed fit without being too baggy, which is exactly what I want from them. I’d suggest if you wear a slimmer cut in jeans you’d want to size down 🙂

                  @sabergirl:

                  I’d say that would depend on how you want them to fit. Look at the thigh and knee measurements to see how loose or tight tts or a size down will be. They’re supposed to be cut roomy, so I think most folks go true-to-size, and some brave souls size down. I wouldn’t even think of sizing down because of the thigh. That’s going to be your key measurement, as waist won’t tell you much. It just sits in a totally different place than jeans, so is hard to compare.

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                  Thank You

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                    DerbyBoss
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                    Anyone know of a good place to get chain stitching alterations in San Jose, CA? Thanks!

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                      chrisjohnnick
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                      @DerbyBoss:

                      Anyone know of a good place to get chain stitching alterations in San Jose, CA? Thanks!

                      Self Edge in SF?

                      Wants List:
                      IHSH-20-Red, XL
                      IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                      IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                      IHSW-45 Black, M
                      IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                      IH-777S-SB size 32
                      IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                        goosehd
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                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                        For everyone on the fence re: sizing. Why are you not using the sizing charts that IH publishes prior to purchase and instead of going with your normal size?

                        In my opinion, the greatest resource/best thing about IH customer service is their measuring standards and publication of those measurements in advance to selling the items.

                        Really would like your feedback on this.

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          JunkPants
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                          @goosehd
                          Joined: 20 Nov 2022

                          @goosehd Not sure if this was meant for me, but thought I'd weigh in anyway. Personally I always use the sizing charts. Indeed one of the great things with IH/IHUK.

                          With shirts that tends to work out to be XXL for me in most cases. One exception being CPO shirts where I seem to be 50/50 XL or XXL, if I have the option.

                          For jackets it typically varies a bit more, between different jackets and different batches. For instance in the latest 526L batch I got an XL, but in the previous batch the XXL would have been a better fit. No problem, as you can always rely on the sizing charts.

                          There are times though when more than one size would work. This is pretty common for me at least, with IH offering 8 (!) sizes for a single shirt. And I'm also not that particular about sizing. In these cases a specific measurement (like the length, shoulder width etc.) may sway me one way or the other. The fabric can play a part as well (heavy and/or stiff fabric = I would typically lean towards more generous measurements), and also how you plan to wear it (personal preference, layering etc). Chances are I'd be happy either way.

                          In this case both XL and XXL would probably work well for me (even the XXXL if I wanted room for layering), but @Oaktavia specifically mentioned it could be fairly tight in the armpit area, which is one thing I can find rather annoying. I appreciate that bit of insight, and went with the XXL.

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                            goosehd
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                            @JunkPants Thank you for the feedback and not intended for anyone in particular. I've been noticing a trend of where people are buying more clothing based upon other people's experiences instead of relying on the posted measurements.

                            I will say this until I'm blue in the face that 2 people who weigh pretty much the same and are of the same height can have dramatically different body compositions and measurements. I love the analogy of what weighs more...1 pound of bricks or 1 pound of feathers...

                            Someone basing their purchase on someone else's size will not always work.

                            The constant exchanges and returns costs everyone money and time which at some point will break the system and need to be repaired. It is also a detriment to someone who may have missed out on a purchase because due diligence wasn't done and incorrect sizes took it from someone who may have been able to make it work.

                            IHUK does and goes out of their way to make the purchases as easy as possible, and I think we need to all do our part to make it easy on them.

                            @Giles I may be off base here and would love to know your thoughts on the topic as well.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              goosehd
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                              ...and once again, not directing this to anyone and more of a general observation of a trend that I'm seeing across the board as of late.

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • KasiK
                                Kasi
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                                Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                                Always measurements for me. Regardless, what other people are wearing

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                                While you drink champagne
                                And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                  Tobi
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                                  Joined: 12 Aug 2022

                                  I would say though that I tend to listen if several people report shrinkage when washing that is more pronounced than the product description seems to indicate... Sized up in the Lefty Type 3 for that reason and glad I did ...

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                                    JunkPants
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                                    @goosehd
                                    Joined: 20 Nov 2022

                                    @goosehd Totally agree with that.
                                    (And will say that I've returned zero items to IHUK, in large part due to the size charts).

                                    It does seem that some people have some sort of aversion to actually measuring their clothing 😁 It really isn't all that hard.

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                                      FlavourFade
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      @goosehd
                                      Joined: 15 Jan 2024

                                      @goosehd I always use the size chart and mix it with what people do about their sizing. Because fabrics or cuts can affect how a shirt or jacket feels or should be worn. So I like to have some references of people who have experience

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                                      wtb:
                                      The Pale Rider XXL

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                                      • Salted RacerS
                                        Salted Racer
                                        Haraki san Prodigy
                                        Joined: 15 Nov 2021

                                        I went usual size with this one. All my XXL IH western shirts work for laying or just a tee— a real unicorn fit for me personally.

                                        I’ll admit a few years ago I was stuck on tag size and for some reason ( psychological maybe ) I never deviated. Size charts are my go to now though : ). Looking forward to seeing what everyone does with this piece.

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                                          FlavourFade
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                                          @Salted-Racer I feel you, certain sizes give you the impression you look like an XS or even XXXL but in reality it does not tell anything about your looks. I lost 50kg some years ago and was so happy to buy M or L at the stores now I buy XXL but it don't make me feel bigger than I am. (Even though I might have gained a kilo or two)

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                                          wtb:
                                          The Pale Rider XXL

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