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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

IHxVS-T1-DD - Iron Heart/Vater & Sohn 16.5oz Indigo/Indigo Duck Type I Jacket

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    Dion
    Joined: 15 Mar 2015

    Perfecto 8)!

    last edited by 6 Mar 2017, 22:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      georgeel
      Joined: 27 Feb 2011

      @Max Power
      Very very beautiful, supreme fading! In this fabric I own my 666s-LB and the DD vest… I missed that great Jacket  😢 😢 😢

      @Lindsey
      Holy Cow!

      IH-888S-142OD

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        rodalbird
        Joined: 16 Mar 2017

        Hi everyone:
        I am new to IH. One question for the experts. I've been told by the IH staff there is no need to soak this jacket before initial wear, but everyone around here seems to have. I wonder why. Is it to soften the stiffness? To have it shrunk to its real size? Wouldn't it be better not to soak to getter sharper fades?
        Thanks!

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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          You'll get some shrinkage with a hot soak. This material fades like mad regardless of soaking/washes.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
          last edited by 17 Mar 2017, 08:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Max Power
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 31 Oct 2010

            I didn't experience a lot shrinkage, but the jacket is so stiff (almost unwearable) at first that soaking seemed like a good idea. And the soak makes it even stiffer at first - you'll get mad fades in no time in this fabric, no matter what you do. But to prevent the fabric from damage I'd definitely soak.

            @elclintor:

            > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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              Winchy
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 28 Sept 2009

              @rodalbird

              As Neph says, the duck will fade with high contrast regardless of whether it has been soaked/washed beforehand.

              Initial soaks/washes help to bed in the stitching along with removing any shrinkage so at least one dunk in water is advisable but you could start breaking it in with view to giving it a quick & cool soak after it has started adapting to your shape.

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                rodalbird
                Joined: 16 Mar 2017

                Thanks for your insight folks. That was helpful. I think I'll go for that initial soak.
                Cheers

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                  Lindsey
                  Joined: 14 Sept 2016

                  These arm combs are incredible!

                  last edited by 23 Mar 2017, 16:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Lindsey
                    Joined: 14 Sept 2016

                    More evo pics

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                      Irkku Paska
                      Joined: 11 Nov 2015

                      Guys are you considering to re-run this piece?

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                      last edited by 28 Mar 2017, 11:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        I'm not sure we have any indigo/indigo duck left but if we do, it will be a @VaterundSohn decision, not mine…

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                        last edited by 28 Mar 2017, 11:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Irkku Paska
                          Joined: 11 Nov 2015

                          Okay Giles, fingers crossed.

                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                          last edited by 28 Mar 2017, 13:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            vizsla
                            Joined: 23 Aug 2014

                            I really hope Vater&Sohn will release a 2nd run of these. A shorter box and a little more oldschool and traditional cut for the working cowboys, please  😉

                            "I guess there can be better living through better design." - Charles Eames

                            last edited by 28 Mar 2017, 14:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              EvilTwin
                              Joined: 28 Jan 2013

                              FYI, Vater & Sohn still has XS through L in stock. The only size that's sold out both here and there right now is XXL.

                              last edited by 29 Mar 2017, 00:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                bryaneidins70
                                Iron Heart Deity
                                Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                                Just picked up one of these from Finn666, what an awesome jacket! The fit is spot on with a 'Large' for me. I can't wait to see this evolving.

                                'Fail we may…Sail we must'

                                last edited by 12 Jun 2017, 14:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  bryaneidins70
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                                  First yellow….

                                  then Blue…..

                                  'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                    neph93
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                    Wow. Two different types of indigo? I know that natural indigo bleeds yellow into water but synthetic bleeds blue…

                                    EDIT: although if you agitated it could be the because the natty indigo oxidizing...

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                                    • Virginia Woolf
                                    last edited by 14 Aug 2017, 18:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Giles
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                      Nope.  that is the sizing agent leaching out.

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                      last edited by 14 Aug 2017, 18:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        bryaneidins70
                                        Iron Heart Deity
                                        Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                                        What's 'Sizing agent' ? @Giles

                                        'Fail we may…Sail we must'

                                        last edited by 15 Aug 2017, 06:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          From Wiki:

                                          Textile warp sizing

                                          Sizing the warp
                                          Sizing of the warp yarn is essential to reduce breakage of the yarn and thus production stops on the weaving machine. On the weaving machine, the warp yarns are subjected to several types of actions i.e. cyclic strain, flexing, abrasion at various loom parts and inter yarn friction.

                                          With sizing, the strength — abrasion resistance — of the yarn will improve and the hairiness of yarn will decrease. The degree of improvement of strength depends on adhesion force between fiber and size, size penetration as well as encapsulation of yarn. Different types of water soluble polymers called textile sizing agents/chemicals such as modified starch, polyvinyl alcohol (PVA), carboxymethyl cellulose (CMC), acrylates are used to protect the yarn. Also wax is added to reduce the abrasiveness of the warp yarns. The type of yarn material (e.g. cotton, polyester, linen), the thickness of the yarn, type of weaving machinery will determine the sizing recipe.

                                          The sizing liquor is applied on warp yarn with a warp sizing machine. After the weaving process the fabric is desized (washed).

                                          Sizing may be done by hand, or in a sizing machine.

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                          last edited by 15 Aug 2017, 06:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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