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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

IHxVS-T1-DD - Iron Heart/Vater & Sohn 16.5oz Indigo/Indigo Duck Type I Jacket

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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    You'll get some shrinkage with a hot soak. This material fades like mad regardless of soaking/washes.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
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      Max Power
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 31 Oct 2010

      I didn't experience a lot shrinkage, but the jacket is so stiff (almost unwearable) at first that soaking seemed like a good idea. And the soak makes it even stiffer at first - you'll get mad fades in no time in this fabric, no matter what you do. But to prevent the fabric from damage I'd definitely soak.

      @elclintor:

      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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        Winchy
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 28 Sept 2009

        @rodalbird

        As Neph says, the duck will fade with high contrast regardless of whether it has been soaked/washed beforehand.

        Initial soaks/washes help to bed in the stitching along with removing any shrinkage so at least one dunk in water is advisable but you could start breaking it in with view to giving it a quick & cool soak after it has started adapting to your shape.

        last edited by 17 Mar 2017, 12:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          rodalbird
          Joined: 16 Mar 2017

          Thanks for your insight folks. That was helpful. I think I'll go for that initial soak.
          Cheers

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            Lindsey
            Joined: 14 Sept 2016

            These arm combs are incredible!

            last edited by 23 Mar 2017, 16:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Lindsey
              Joined: 14 Sept 2016

              More evo pics

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                Irkku Paska
                Joined: 11 Nov 2015

                Guys are you considering to re-run this piece?

                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  I'm not sure we have any indigo/indigo duck left but if we do, it will be a @VaterundSohn decision, not mine…

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                  last edited by 28 Mar 2017, 11:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Irkku Paska
                    Joined: 11 Nov 2015

                    Okay Giles, fingers crossed.

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                    last edited by 28 Mar 2017, 13:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      vizsla
                      Joined: 23 Aug 2014

                      I really hope Vater&Sohn will release a 2nd run of these. A shorter box and a little more oldschool and traditional cut for the working cowboys, please  😉

                      "I guess there can be better living through better design." - Charles Eames

                      last edited by 28 Mar 2017, 14:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        EvilTwin
                        Joined: 28 Jan 2013

                        FYI, Vater & Sohn still has XS through L in stock. The only size that's sold out both here and there right now is XXL.

                        last edited by 29 Mar 2017, 00:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          bryaneidins70
                          Iron Heart Deity
                          Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                          Just picked up one of these from Finn666, what an awesome jacket! The fit is spot on with a 'Large' for me. I can't wait to see this evolving.

                          'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                            bryaneidins70
                            Iron Heart Deity
                            Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                            First yellow….

                            then Blue…..

                            'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                              neph93
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              Wow. Two different types of indigo? I know that natural indigo bleeds yellow into water but synthetic bleeds blue…

                              EDIT: although if you agitated it could be the because the natty indigo oxidizing...

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

                              • Virginia Woolf
                              last edited by 14 Aug 2017, 18:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                Nope.  that is the sizing agent leaching out.

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  bryaneidins70
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                                  What's 'Sizing agent' ? @Giles

                                  'Fail we may…Sail we must'

                                  last edited by 15 Aug 2017, 06:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    From Wiki:

                                    Textile warp sizing

                                    Sizing the warp
                                    Sizing of the warp yarn is essential to reduce breakage of the yarn and thus production stops on the weaving machine. On the weaving machine, the warp yarns are subjected to several types of actions i.e. cyclic strain, flexing, abrasion at various loom parts and inter yarn friction.

                                    With sizing, the strength — abrasion resistance — of the yarn will improve and the hairiness of yarn will decrease. The degree of improvement of strength depends on adhesion force between fiber and size, size penetration as well as encapsulation of yarn. Different types of water soluble polymers called textile sizing agents/chemicals such as modified starch, polyvinyl alcohol (PVA), carboxymethyl cellulose (CMC), acrylates are used to protect the yarn. Also wax is added to reduce the abrasiveness of the warp yarns. The type of yarn material (e.g. cotton, polyester, linen), the thickness of the yarn, type of weaving machinery will determine the sizing recipe.

                                    The sizing liquor is applied on warp yarn with a warp sizing machine. After the weaving process the fabric is desized (washed).

                                    Sizing may be done by hand, or in a sizing machine.

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                    last edited by 15 Aug 2017, 06:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • ScottystylesS
                                      Scottystyles
                                      Joined: 25 Jun 2013

                                      I gotta say! This is one beautiful interpretation of a type 1.. That Indigo duck wears so freakin good! There aren't many jackets from the classic shapes over time that id say that ever trump the OG ones, but this baby.. yep, cut that boxy shape out, and some killer evo wearing duck and waalaa! Though I am inclined to agree with @vizsla on the OG shorter waist. Killer wear btw @vizsla nicely worn bro. Oh, and Ive only just ordered one.. Been hiding my wallet from IH a while now.. Seems the wallet moths are out flying again! yeeew!!

                                      last edited by 28 Mar 2018, 00:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • ScottystylesS
                                        Scottystyles
                                        Joined: 25 Jun 2013

                                        Received my size L today! such a good fit! And oh man.. This is going to be one hard baby to break in! but I cant wait! Gonna beat this baby like it owes me money!

                                        last edited by 3 Apr 2018, 08:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Denimgirl
                                          Joined: 16 Apr 2017

                                          The fabric is amazing. My type 3 has faded beautifully. Any one who has this jacket is in for fade fun! 😃

                                          last edited by 15 Apr 2018, 19:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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