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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    IHxVS-T1-DD - Iron Heart/Vater & Sohn 16.5oz Indigo/Indigo Duck Type I Jacket

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      rodalbird
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      Hi everyone:
      I am new to IH. One question for the experts. I've been told by the IH staff there is no need to soak this jacket before initial wear, but everyone around here seems to have. I wonder why. Is it to soften the stiffness? To have it shrunk to its real size? Wouldn't it be better not to soak to getter sharper fades?
      Thanks!

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      • neph93N
        neph93
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        You'll get some shrinkage with a hot soak. This material fades like mad regardless of soaking/washes.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • Max PowerM
          Max Power
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          I didn't experience a lot shrinkage, but the jacket is so stiff (almost unwearable) at first that soaking seemed like a good idea. And the soak makes it even stiffer at first - you'll get mad fades in no time in this fabric, no matter what you do. But to prevent the fabric from damage I'd definitely soak.

          @elclintor:

          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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          • WinchyW
            Winchy
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            @rodalbird

            As Neph says, the duck will fade with high contrast regardless of whether it has been soaked/washed beforehand.

            Initial soaks/washes help to bed in the stitching along with removing any shrinkage so at least one dunk in water is advisable but you could start breaking it in with view to giving it a quick & cool soak after it has started adapting to your shape.

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              rodalbird
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              Thanks for your insight folks. That was helpful. I think I'll go for that initial soak.
              Cheers

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              • LindseyL
                Lindsey
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                These arm combs are incredible!

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                • LindseyL
                  Lindsey
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                  More evo pics

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                  • Irkku PaskaI
                    Irkku Paska
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                    Guys are you considering to re-run this piece?

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      I'm not sure we have any indigo/indigo duck left but if we do, it will be a @VaterundSohn decision, not mine…

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Irkku PaskaI
                        Irkku Paska
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                        Okay Giles, fingers crossed.

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                        • vizslaV
                          vizsla
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                          I really hope Vater&Sohn will release a 2nd run of these. A shorter box and a little more oldschool and traditional cut for the working cowboys, please  😉

                          "I guess there can be better living through better design." - Charles Eames

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                            EvilTwin
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                            FYI, Vater & Sohn still has XS through L in stock. The only size that's sold out both here and there right now is XXL.

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                            • bryaneidins70B
                              bryaneidins70
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                              Just picked up one of these from Finn666, what an awesome jacket! The fit is spot on with a 'Large' for me. I can't wait to see this evolving.

                              'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                              • bryaneidins70B
                                bryaneidins70
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                                First yellow….

                                then Blue…..

                                'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                • neph93N
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                                  Wow. Two different types of indigo? I know that natural indigo bleeds yellow into water but synthetic bleeds blue…

                                  EDIT: although if you agitated it could be the because the natty indigo oxidizing...

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    Nope.  that is the sizing agent leaching out.

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • bryaneidins70B
                                      bryaneidins70
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                                      What's 'Sizing agent' ? @Giles

                                      'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                      • GilesG
                                        Giles
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                                        From Wiki:

                                        Textile warp sizing

                                        Sizing the warp
                                        Sizing of the warp yarn is essential to reduce breakage of the yarn and thus production stops on the weaving machine. On the weaving machine, the warp yarns are subjected to several types of actions i.e. cyclic strain, flexing, abrasion at various loom parts and inter yarn friction.

                                        With sizing, the strength — abrasion resistance — of the yarn will improve and the hairiness of yarn will decrease. The degree of improvement of strength depends on adhesion force between fiber and size, size penetration as well as encapsulation of yarn. Different types of water soluble polymers called textile sizing agents/chemicals such as modified starch, polyvinyl alcohol (PVA), carboxymethyl cellulose (CMC), acrylates are used to protect the yarn. Also wax is added to reduce the abrasiveness of the warp yarns. The type of yarn material (e.g. cotton, polyester, linen), the thickness of the yarn, type of weaving machinery will determine the sizing recipe.

                                        The sizing liquor is applied on warp yarn with a warp sizing machine. After the weaving process the fabric is desized (washed).

                                        Sizing may be done by hand, or in a sizing machine.

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • ScottystylesS
                                          Scottystyles
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                                          I gotta say! This is one beautiful interpretation of a type 1.. That Indigo duck wears so freakin good! There aren't many jackets from the classic shapes over time that id say that ever trump the OG ones, but this baby.. yep, cut that boxy shape out, and some killer evo wearing duck and waalaa! Though I am inclined to agree with @vizsla on the OG shorter waist. Killer wear btw @vizsla nicely worn bro. Oh, and Ive only just ordered one.. Been hiding my wallet from IH a while now.. Seems the wallet moths are out flying again! yeeew!!

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                                          • ScottystylesS
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                                            Received my size L today! such a good fit! And oh man.. This is going to be one hard baby to break in! but I cant wait! Gonna beat this baby like it owes me money!

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