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IH-666L - The Devil's Left Hand

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    zwer
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 11 Apr 2012

    Looking forward to these. I have another brand's LHT and they're wicked. I guess I'm be stuck in something heavy for the next two summers, though.

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      Matt
      見習いボス
      Joined: 4 Oct 2011

      I can't believe nobody's asked this yet… how much?

      last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 01:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Chris
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

        I'd guess there isn't going to be a price until Giles meets up with Haraki and does some number crunching.  Nonetheless, I'm sure they'll be reassuringly expensive…

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          I'd guess 405. Just a guess

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            RocknRoll
            Joined: 29 Nov 2011

            @Chris:

            … reassuringly expensive...

            Love this!  😉 😉

            last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 03:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Matt
              見習いボス
              Joined: 4 Oct 2011

              I was trying to build a case for the Mega Busters, but this presents a wrinkle in my finely crafted plans.  I can't enter the HWDC2 w/ these… but I already have 25oz.  The price point may have to decide for me as I will need to coerce manipulate convince my wife that I need new pants.

              last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 04:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                Yes Matt, I have absolutely no idea…...

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  xchen
                  Joined: 6 Sept 2012

                  Convincing the wife is always the hard part, Matt.

                  last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 12:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

                    1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
                    2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
                    3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

                    Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

                    The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      @nerkg:

                      I'd guess 405. Just a guess

                      @Giles:

                      In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

                      1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
                      2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
                      3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

                      Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

                      The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

                      So 380 🙂

                      last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 13:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        No idea yet…....

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Matt
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                          Does the Left Hand weaving process affect cost?  Can you do that on any old antique shuttle loom or is there something special you'd need?

                          I'm also interested in why the lighter material is being used for this… was there something standing in the way of doing the 18oz or 21oz backwards or was there just an interest in doing something cool with this denim?

                          Look at me with all the questions today.

                          last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 13:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

                            Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              Anesthetist
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                              Joined: 14 May 2011

                              @Giles:

                              LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

                              Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

                              Thanks for bringing these to the table. If I hadn't put my cash down for contest Mega Beetle Busters I'd be all over them. Edited to add that the patch is amazing.

                              IG: bluehandsslim

                              last edited by 11 Oct 2012, 14:40 10 Nov 2012, 14:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                MikeC
                                Banned
                                Joined: 7 Nov 2011

                                All I can keep hearing in my head is Johnny Cash's The Devil's Right Hand. Lets hope the Devil's Left Hand is as awesome as Cash's Right Hand version. (I know they will be)

                                last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 14:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                  last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 15:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    RocknRoll
                                    Joined: 29 Nov 2011

                                    If only you could get past copyright, that would make an amazing patch! ^

                                    Still, I'm loving theway these are shaping up. Dunno if I'll be in the market for them, but I'll watch with interest from the sideline.

                                    last edited by 11 Nov 2012, 06:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      grandmasterben
                                      Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                                      Whoa-is this the first IH denim with visible selvedge that isn't red?

                                      last edited by 11 Nov 2012, 18:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        Yup

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                        last edited by 11 Nov 2012, 20:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          Price wil be USD340

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                          last edited by 8 Dec 2012, 03:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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