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IH-666L - The Devil's Left Hand

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    Chris
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

    I'd guess there isn't going to be a price until Giles meets up with Haraki and does some number crunching.  Nonetheless, I'm sure they'll be reassuringly expensive…

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      I'd guess 405. Just a guess

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        RocknRoll
        Joined: 29 Nov 2011

        @Chris:

        … reassuringly expensive...

        Love this!  😉 😉

        last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 03:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Matt
          見習いボス
          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

          I was trying to build a case for the Mega Busters, but this presents a wrinkle in my finely crafted plans.  I can't enter the HWDC2 w/ these… but I already have 25oz.  The price point may have to decide for me as I will need to coerce manipulate convince my wife that I need new pants.

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            Yes Matt, I have absolutely no idea…...

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              xchen
              Joined: 6 Sept 2012

              Convincing the wife is always the hard part, Matt.

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

                1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
                2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
                3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

                Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

                The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  @nerkg:

                  I'd guess 405. Just a guess

                  @Giles:

                  In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

                  1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
                  2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
                  3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

                  Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

                  The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

                  So 380 🙂

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    No idea yet…....

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      Matt
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                      Does the Left Hand weaving process affect cost?  Can you do that on any old antique shuttle loom or is there something special you'd need?

                      I'm also interested in why the lighter material is being used for this… was there something standing in the way of doing the 18oz or 21oz backwards or was there just an interest in doing something cool with this denim?

                      Look at me with all the questions today.

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

                        Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Anesthetist
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                          Joined: 14 May 2011

                          @Giles:

                          LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

                          Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

                          Thanks for bringing these to the table. If I hadn't put my cash down for contest Mega Beetle Busters I'd be all over them. Edited to add that the patch is amazing.

                          IG: bluehandsslim

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                            MikeC
                            Banned
                            Joined: 7 Nov 2011

                            All I can keep hearing in my head is Johnny Cash's The Devil's Right Hand. Lets hope the Devil's Left Hand is as awesome as Cash's Right Hand version. (I know they will be)

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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                RocknRoll
                                Joined: 29 Nov 2011

                                If only you could get past copyright, that would make an amazing patch! ^

                                Still, I'm loving theway these are shaping up. Dunno if I'll be in the market for them, but I'll watch with interest from the sideline.

                                last edited by 11 Nov 2012, 06:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  grandmasterben
                                  Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                                  Whoa-is this the first IH denim with visible selvedge that isn't red?

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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    Yup

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                    last edited by 11 Nov 2012, 20:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Giles
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                      Price wil be USD340

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                      last edited by 8 Dec 2012, 03:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • patchP
                                        patch
                                        Joined: 24 Jul 2010

                                        That's a nice price  .

                                        last edited by 8 Dec 2012, 06:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          corporalclegg
                                          Joined: 27 Jun 2010

                                          So ive been wearing these for around a week now and they are fantastic.  The denim has a great feel and look, and the devils cut is great.  Ive been letting them settle down before I got pictures up but will try to get some up tomorrow.  If anyone has any questions about these feel free to ask here or pm me.

                                          last edited by 10 Dec 2012, 04:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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