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IH-666L - The Devil's Left Hand

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    Seul
    Joined: 24 Nov 2009

    @Seul:

    sighs and goes for a walk, muttering to himself

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      zwer
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 11 Apr 2012

      Looking forward to these. I have another brand's LHT and they're wicked. I guess I'm be stuck in something heavy for the next two summers, though.

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        Matt
        見習いボス
        Joined: 4 Oct 2011

        I can't believe nobody's asked this yet… how much?

        last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 01:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Chris
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 28 Jun 2010

          I'd guess there isn't going to be a price until Giles meets up with Haraki and does some number crunching.  Nonetheless, I'm sure they'll be reassuringly expensive…

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            I'd guess 405. Just a guess

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              RocknRoll
              Joined: 29 Nov 2011

              @Chris:

              … reassuringly expensive...

              Love this!  😉 😉

              last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 03:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Matt
                見習いボス
                Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                I was trying to build a case for the Mega Busters, but this presents a wrinkle in my finely crafted plans.  I can't enter the HWDC2 w/ these… but I already have 25oz.  The price point may have to decide for me as I will need to coerce manipulate convince my wife that I need new pants.

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  Yes Matt, I have absolutely no idea…...

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    xchen
                    Joined: 6 Sept 2012

                    Convincing the wife is always the hard part, Matt.

                    last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 12:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

                      1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
                      2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
                      3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

                      Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

                      The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        I'd guess 405. Just a guess

                        @Giles:

                        In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

                        1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
                        2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
                        3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

                        Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

                        The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

                        So 380 🙂

                        last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 13:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          No idea yet…....

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            Matt
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                            Does the Left Hand weaving process affect cost?  Can you do that on any old antique shuttle loom or is there something special you'd need?

                            I'm also interested in why the lighter material is being used for this… was there something standing in the way of doing the 18oz or 21oz backwards or was there just an interest in doing something cool with this denim?

                            Look at me with all the questions today.

                            last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 13:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

                              Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                Anesthetist
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                                Joined: 14 May 2011

                                @Giles:

                                LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

                                Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

                                Thanks for bringing these to the table. If I hadn't put my cash down for contest Mega Beetle Busters I'd be all over them. Edited to add that the patch is amazing.

                                IG: bluehandsslim

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                                  MikeC
                                  Banned
                                  Joined: 7 Nov 2011

                                  All I can keep hearing in my head is Johnny Cash's The Devil's Right Hand. Lets hope the Devil's Left Hand is as awesome as Cash's Right Hand version. (I know they will be)

                                  last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 14:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                    last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 15:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      RocknRoll
                                      Joined: 29 Nov 2011

                                      If only you could get past copyright, that would make an amazing patch! ^

                                      Still, I'm loving theway these are shaping up. Dunno if I'll be in the market for them, but I'll watch with interest from the sideline.

                                      last edited by 11 Nov 2012, 06:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        grandmasterben
                                        Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                                        Whoa-is this the first IH denim with visible selvedge that isn't red?

                                        last edited by 11 Nov 2012, 18:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          Yup

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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