IH-666L - The Devil's Left Hand

[Seul]

White selvedge detail, that patch, that denim… Hey Giles, on an unrelated note: any info on the 15 oz TW jeans???

[Guest]

That's a really pretty fit.

[Giles]

@Seul:

Hey Giles, on an unrelated note: any info on the 15 oz TW jeans???

Both the RHT and the LHT are in production…...

[Seul]

@Seul:

sighs and goes for a walk, muttering to himself

[zwer]

Looking forward to these. I have another brand's LHT and they're wicked. I guess I'm be stuck in something heavy for the next two summers, though.

[Matt]

I can't believe nobody's asked this yet… how much?

[Chris]

I'd guess there isn't going to be a price until Giles meets up with Haraki and does some number crunching.  Nonetheless, I'm sure they'll be reassuringly expensive…

[Guest]

I'd guess 405. Just a guess

[RocknRoll]

@Chris:

… reassuringly expensive...

Love this! 

[Matt]

I was trying to build a case for the Mega Busters, but this presents a wrinkle in my finely crafted plans.  I can't enter the HWDC2 w/ these… but I already have 25oz.  The price point may have to decide for me as I will need to coerce manipulate convince my wife that I need new pants.

[Giles]

Yes Matt, I have absolutely no idea…...

[xchen]

Convincing the wife is always the hard part, Matt.

[Giles]

In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

[Guest]

@nerkg:

I'd guess 405. Just a guess

@Giles:

In broad brush strokes.  The pure cost of making a jean comprises 3 main things.

1. Where it is made.  We weave the denim and make the jean in Japan - expensive.
2. The quality and weight of the denim.  Let's assume we always takes highest quality we can get in terms of raw material, then the weight of the denim determines cost.  Heavier = more, lighter = less.
3. The cost of production.  The heavier the denim, the harder it is to make (and that is effectively exponential)

Is an Iron Heart 14.5oz jean going to be less than an 18oz which is less than a 21oz, which is less than a 25oz  Most probably yes.

The one singular exception to this rule of thumb is the IH-634S.  We make and sell so many we can pile em high and sell em "cheap".

So 380

[Giles]

No idea yet…....

[Matt]

Does the Left Hand weaving process affect cost?  Can you do that on any old antique shuttle loom or is there something special you'd need?

I'm also interested in why the lighter material is being used for this… was there something standing in the way of doing the 18oz or 21oz backwards or was there just an interest in doing something cool with this denim?

Look at me with all the questions today.

[Giles]

LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

[Anesthetist]

@Giles:

LHT more than RHT?  I don't think so.

Nothing standing in the way.  But I routinely hassle Haraki and Ono for what they have squirrelled away.  When I find something interesting, I try and use it.

Thanks for bringing these to the table. If I hadn't put my cash down for contest Mega Beetle Busters I'd be all over them. Edited to add that the patch is amazing.

[MikeC]

All I can keep hearing in my head is Johnny Cash's The Devil's Right Hand. Lets hope the Devil's Left Hand is as awesome as Cash's Right Hand version. (I know they will be)

[Giles]