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    • Tago MagoT
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      @Matt said in Unpopular opinions:

      Aja by Steely Dan

      listened to two songs, got bored, put on Individual Thought Patterns. Happy now. I'll give them another try when I'm in a different mood

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        @Matt Steely Dan is one of my favorites, and Aja is most days my favorite Dan record. It is literally perfect.

        Think it, be it.

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        • seawolfS
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          @mclaincausey Wings was fantastic as well.

          “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

          @zeebeeleather

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          • Tago MagoT
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            Steely Dan, much like Grateful Dead, may be both a generational as well as a cultural thing. If I think about Germany and my generation, neither of those bands had any notable impact on a larger scale. @Aetas can surely correct me if I'm wrong

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            • pechelmanP
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              My only problem is Aja is how freaking overplayed it is in audiophile circles because of how well it was produced.

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              • flannel slutF
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                My only problem w Aja is taking the precautionary pregnancy test after each listen

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                • mclaincauseyM
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                  @Tago-Mago I’m not sure that’s it. Like, I dig Can and other krautrock, just as I dig a lot of British Invasion stuff, and even the Dead, where I wasn’t around when a lot of it was being created. It’s just diff’rent strokes for diff’rent folks as Gary Coleman put it. There could be some issues understanding the cynical/sardonic wit of the lyrics though since they tend to have very American references.

                  It is perfectly produced, but that’s a feature and not a bug. There are plenty of other albums audiophiles could add to their collection of references. I think this is more of an audiophile problem than an Aja problem.

                  Wayne Shorter’s solo on Aja (meaning the title track) may be my favorite non-jazz sax solo of all time, and Gadd’s accompaniment on drums is pure magic.

                  LOL @flannel-slut 🤣

                  Think it, be it.

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                  • Tago MagoT
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                    @mclaincausey I may have phrased my response poorly. I was referring to the lack of a following that Steely Dan and Grateful Dead have in Germany.

                    Regarding music bridging generations, that is certainly true and I didn’t intend to make a sweeping generalisation. Though I will say, as much as I love Can and Krautrock, they are a niche phenomenon in my opinion, who never got the popular recognition that their impact and influence deserved. And the most influential of those bands in my opinion was Kraftwerk, who shed the Krautrock label pretty quickly and want nothing to do with it anymore. And unlike their peers they are fairly universally acclaimed

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                    • GraemeEG
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                      @flannel-slut save yourself the effort and just assume you need a plan-b

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                      • seawolfS
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                        I'm sorry. I just couldn't do it. Kid A sucks. Sorry @mclaincausey I don't know how you can subject yourself to that. I did hear some music, but I had to peel back the layers of noise to get to it. It's funny because you and I agree on a lot of music and in life in general, but this is where I draw the line 😂

                        I'm going to round out this unpopular opinion with something sweeter in the Music thread and attempt to shift the convo about our popular opinions over there.

                        “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          @Tago-Mago yeah that definitely makes sense. Both of these are very quintessentially American bands, drawing on very little outside of American modes of music and ideas, though Aja pulls in some Asian themes (though “Chinese music “ in the lyrics could be a reference to a derisive term Louis Armstrong attached to bebop) and you’ll hear them use sitar on “Do It Again,” or write a song called Bodhisattva, thought that is more about western faux eastern mysticism, and the Dead had some eastern things going on from time to time, especially in a song like Blues for Allah. Perhaps appreciating them for a German would be like me trying to enjoy polka, which has happened at a polka bar in Minneapolis but would be inconceivable elsewhere.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • GraemeEG
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                            @seawolf said in Unpopular opinions:

                            Kid A sucks

                            I think there are no other options but to meet on the field of battle at this point but since we are talking nerdy music preferences it's going to need to either be some sort of larping or light saber combat

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                            • goosehdG
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                              As @Giles mentioned, I too have been on a Radiohead kick since this discussion started. Thank you and to all of you who don't like them...

                              My first thought regarding Snow Patrol was that I didn't know who they were. After looking up a few songs, I have but never set down to an entire album. Recommendations?

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • GilesG
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                                Eyes Open....

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • seawolfS
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                                  @GraemeE If we're larping in a field, can we play some good music for our combat soundtrack? Planet Telex feels like a great start.

                                  “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                  @zeebeeleather

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                                    an olive grove facing the sea is one of my all time favourite songs, just happens to be a snow patrol song.

                                    I don't dislike Radiohead but it doesn't resonate with me, The Libertines however I can listen to all day

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                                    • TobiT
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                                      Hold on to your underwear boys and girls!

                                      windy.jpg

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                                      • BrianB
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                                        Primal scream have suddenly regrouped and are playing

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          @Tobi said in Unpopular opinions:

                                          Hold on to your underwear boys and girls!

                                          Jeez it was windy through the night. Will go and check SAKURA shortly. I added mooring lines and reduced windage yesterday.....

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • RossR
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                                            @Giles The ferry across the harbour was fun this morning i'd say that! 😆

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