Unpopular opinions

[goosehd]

@seawolf Thanks for the clarification. For a moment, I was worried that you had suffered multiple hypoxia related injuries in your previous life as a submariner.

[Tago Mago]

@WhiskeySandwich said in Unpopular opinions:

Sleep Token

listened to two songs, got bored, put on Individual Thought Patterns. Happy now. I'll give them another try when I'm in a different mood

[Tago Mago]

@seawolf said in Unpopular opinions:

Led Zeppelin is one of the greatest bands of all time.

They were those four English fellas recycling Blues songs right?

[WhiskeySandwich]

@Tago-Mago yeah thats them (zeppelin) lol

Sleep Token took a few tries to catch my ear. I made fun of them at first, dont know why i kept trying, i'm usually much more dismissive lol

[seawolf]

@Tago-Mago better than Greta Van Fleet recycling Zeppelin, recycling blues songs, I guess?

[seawolf]

@goosehd our electrolytic oxygen generator did go down for a couple of months when we were on mission, so you’re not wrong

[SKT]

I never know what to think when someone has an aversion to the Beatles. Always perplexes me

[Ikeaparty]

I feel the same about Oasis, my least favorite Creation Records artist, my wife on the other hand... well we are going to London to see them at Wembley so you know I didn't win that battle

[seawolf]

@Ikeaparty oasis isn’t my favorite band, but they are my least favorite

[Matt]

It’s really a matter of context. I’m sure people who started with bands influenced by the Beatles listen to them and don’t get the fuss. As I’ve said before music is infused with the time and world it’s released into. It’s inherent bias one way or the other. I’m perfectly fine with that.

Now can we talk about Aja by Steely Dan? I’m interested to see who doesn’t like it so I can block all your threads.

[mclaincausey]

At the risk of tendering a Popular Opinion about Popular Music, the Beatles deserve the hype. A hydra of diverse but complementary songwriting brilliance in Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison and in a few short years they went from rock and roll to outer and inner space. Really a remarkable output. I think the earlier stuff (which means only like 4 years before the psychedelic stuff—I think the rapid evolution of their style creates a false perception that their career was longer than it was) might sound cliched and less than innovative to today’s ear, but thinking about the music before and during that time, it was groundbreaking, and perhaps doesn’t sound noteworthy exactly because it inspired so many other artists.

And George’s solo career is especially noteworthy.

Not sure what Ringo did in his solo career to warrant induction into the accursed R&R HoF as a solo artist though.

Back on topic: I absolutely detest KISS and the Ramones are fun for about 1-2-3-4 minutes. Somehow AC/DC made repetitive power chords and 4/4 time much more interesting than the latter.

[Tago Mago]

@Matt said in Unpopular opinions:

Aja by Steely Dan

listened to two songs, got bored, put on Individual Thought Patterns. Happy now. I'll give them another try when I'm in a different mood

[mclaincausey]

@Matt Steely Dan is one of my favorites, and Aja is most days my favorite Dan record. It is literally perfect.

[seawolf]

@mclaincausey Wings was fantastic as well.

[Tago Mago]

Steely Dan, much like Grateful Dead, may be both a generational as well as a cultural thing. If I think about Germany and my generation, neither of those bands had any notable impact on a larger scale. @Aetas can surely correct me if I'm wrong

[pechelman]

My only problem is Aja is how freaking overplayed it is in audiophile circles because of how well it was produced.

[flannel slut]

My only problem w Aja is taking the precautionary pregnancy test after each listen

[mclaincausey]

@Tago-Mago I’m not sure that’s it. Like, I dig Can and other krautrock, just as I dig a lot of British Invasion stuff, and even the Dead, where I wasn’t around when a lot of it was being created. It’s just diff’rent strokes for diff’rent folks as Gary Coleman put it. There could be some issues understanding the cynical/sardonic wit of the lyrics though since they tend to have very American references.

It is perfectly produced, but that’s a feature and not a bug. There are plenty of other albums audiophiles could add to their collection of references. I think this is more of an audiophile problem than an Aja problem.

Wayne Shorter’s solo on Aja (meaning the title track) may be my favorite non-jazz sax solo of all time, and Gadd’s accompaniment on drums is pure magic.

LOL @flannel-slut

[Tago Mago]

@mclaincausey I may have phrased my response poorly. I was referring to the lack of a following that Steely Dan and Grateful Dead have in Germany.

Regarding music bridging generations, that is certainly true and I didn’t intend to make a sweeping generalisation. Though I will say, as much as I love Can and Krautrock, they are a niche phenomenon in my opinion, who never got the popular recognition that their impact and influence deserved. And the most influential of those bands in my opinion was Kraftwerk, who shed the Krautrock label pretty quickly and want nothing to do with it anymore. And unlike their peers they are fairly universally acclaimed

[GraemeE]

@flannel-slut save yourself the effort and just assume you need a plan-b