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    goosehd
    Mod Squad
    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

    drinking with you guys should be fun 🙂

    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      mclaincausey
      見習いボス
      @EdH
      Joined: 12 Apr 2013

      @EdH said in Brexshit:

      @Tago-Mago

      To immediately counter myself... a single molecule of H2O is still water,

      Is it though? In my mind “water” refers to the liquid state of H2O. You can’t have a liquid with a single molecule.

      Think it, be it.

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        Tago Mago
        Mod Squad
        Joined: 16 Jan 2021

        I just wanted to thank everyone for this discussion, @EdH in particular for adding a totally different perspective and introducing a number of aspects, that I either wasn’t aware of or hadn’t considered. I still think Brexit was a bad idea 😉

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          IrishHeart
          Haraki san Expert
          @Tago Mago
          Joined: 1 Mar 2023

          @Tago-Mago agreed, except for the bit about water which has gone right over my head 🙂

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            ARNC
            啓蒙家
            @IrishHeart
            Joined: 13 Dec 2020

            @IrishHeart it’s not good for water to go right over your head, at least not for a prolonged period 😃

            “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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              IrishHeart
              Haraki san Expert
              @ARNC
              Joined: 1 Mar 2023

              @ARNC haha! Good observation, although at 6’4 it has to be pretty deep!

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                louisbosco
                啓蒙家
                @Giles
                Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                @Giles said in Brexshit:

                AND, the result of the vote was advisory not mandatory.

                this very point. it also would've career suicide for anyone to go "nah, we're not going to follow the referendum" and DC didn't want to be the person to invoke article 50 so he resigned and said some one else can deal with this..

                "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                  T4920
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 27 Apr 2022

                  On the subject of Brexit, from an IH business point of view, what was the biggest ramification that came about as a result of it?
                  And if any, what were the positives?

                  @Giles @Alex

                  “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Overnight, we did not just ship a package to The EU, we had to export it. So although there is a free trade agreement between The EU and Japan and a similar one between The UK and Japan, all non-UK-produced goods attract 12% duty, so upon entry into The EU, our shipments were subject to duty and also VAT on the sum of the declared price plus the duty. So we either shipped to EU and let the customer deal with that shit (something they had not had to do before) or ship and pay the duty and the tax ourselves, in both cases with the high probability that the shipping company would also charge us, or the customer additional "handling" fees. We elected to do the latter and shield the customer from the grief. Then if a customer needs to return the goods, there is no sensible way that we can claim a refund for the tax, the duty or additional fees. The single worst example being a customer who ordered 2 pairs of Wesco boots and returned both pairs - revenue zero, cost of sale €500.

                    No positives at all.

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      T4920
                      見習いボス
                      @Giles
                      Joined: 27 Apr 2022

                      @Giles that sounds awful!
                      I assume that's how/why IH Germany came about, to serve the EU market whilst circumnavigating these export fees?

                      “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

                      last edited by 2 May 2024, 11:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        In part yes.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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