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    • goosehdG
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      @Jeanmoreau Curious if you wash your jeans inside out?

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        @goosehd:

        @Jeanmoreau Curious if you wash your jeans inside out?

        Yeah I thought that was a given

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        • MattM
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          @Jeanmoreau:

          I’m thinking buttoned would preserve the dye better.

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          I’m not sure why.  The only way to preserve the dye is to not wear them.  By its nature the dye is meant to fade.

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          • neph93N
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            Dye leaves through agitation and abrasion. Doing the button up won’t change that…

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

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              @neph93:

              Dye leaves through agitation and abrasion. Doing the button up won’t change that…

              Agitation and abrasion is what is happening in the wash. I would rather that happen to the inside than the outside.
              If you wash inside out buttoned, less of the outside is exposed.

              I think. I actually have no idea what I’m talking about.

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              • goosehdG
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                That was why I asked if you washed them inside out…less agitation and abrasion during the wash but....aren't we all try to achieve the perfect fades?  Wearing and washing them is all part of the journey.

                Are you trying to keep them from fading?

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                • neph93N
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                  Abrasion also happens just through wear. That is how jeans fade, primarily. Washing doesn’t actually strip that much indigo.

                  But if you want the least indigo loss possible then hand washing will always be best.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                  • MattM
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                    Although I wash mine inside out, I’m not entirely convinced it does anything.  If you wash them by themselves then the only thing to agitate would be the smooth interior of the machine.  If you wash them inside out then they agitate against themselves which is more abrasive.  They’ll fade far more with wear than with washing.  @swiss-jeansfreak never washes his and I’ve never seen a more faded pair of jeans here or anywhere else.

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                    • goosehdG
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                      @Matt:

                      I’m sorry @chrisjohnnick but once I convince Katie expatriate and move to the UK I’ll be weaseling applying for the next available position. The seed was slyly planted in Gosport and I’ve been lovingly tending to it daily.  😛

                      @chrisjohnnick:

                      side question: are there any openings in the stubborn crew?

                      side side question: are there any openings in Nashville, TN?

                      I am quite stubborn and have loads of skills.

                      I don't know if you two @chrisjohnnick @Matt were serious (or any others are interested)…but I just got an email that Division Road is looking for staff.  (Charlottesville VA)

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • MattM
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                        If they open a shop in NM I’dbe serious.  I’d love to work for an IH retailer but I’m not interested in relocating to VA.  I worked in retail for 6 years and in customer service for 30.

                        @chrisjohnnick on the other hand is but a hop/skip/jump from VA.  :-\

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                        • NikN
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                          This is a coincidence, was just messaging another forum member about washing and buttoning, but in that case in relation to bleaching. I found that unbuttoned jeans folded over creating a more bleached diagonal line between bottom of fly and pocket, so when bleaching the second time I buttoned them up and there was no diagonal line the second time. So while the bleach is accelerating the process, this seems like evidence that leaving denim unbuttoned might, over time, leave an undesirable fade from where the fabric can fold. But if the wash is gentle this is probably negligible so not really anything to worry about, unless you are bleaching. In which case, button and bleach big.

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                          • chrisjohnnickC
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                            Well, 8.5 hrs each way would be a little more a commute than I'd want, but…

                            I mean, I guess technically when I was a touring musician I did have longer commutes  😘

                            I would seriously consider a store that was in the Nashville area, though. I'd be serious (like, for serious serious) about starting up a conversation about opening up a brick and mortar in the Nashville area that carried IH, and maybe some other brands, but definitely more IH focused. I think I remember Giles mentioning at one point that they get a lot of requests for retailers wanting to stock products, but the waitlist is pretty long.

                            Wants List:
                            IHSH-20-Red, XL
                            IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                            IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                            IHSW-45 Black, M
                            IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                            IH-777S-SB size 32
                            IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                            • MattM
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                              Do it.  We’ll visit you.  😉

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                              • AlexA
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                                @chrisjohnnick:

                                Well, 8.5 hrs each way would be a little more a commute than I'd want, but…

                                I mean, I guess technically when I was a touring musician I did have longer commutes  😘

                                I would seriously consider a store that was in the Nashville area, though. I'd be serious (like, for serious serious) about starting up a conversation about opening up a brick and mortar in the Nashville area that carried IH, and maybe some other brands, but definitely more IH focused. I think I remember Giles mentioning at one point that they get a lot of requests for retailers wanting to stock products, but the waitlist is pretty long.

                                If you want to talk, just email me..

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                                • MattM
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                                  There we go…

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                                  • chrisjohnnickC
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                                    Well, that escalated quickly! Email incoming shortly!

                                    Wants List:
                                    IHSH-20-Red, XL
                                    IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                                    IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                                    IHSW-45 Black, M
                                    IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                                    IH-777S-SB size 32
                                    IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                                    • MattM
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                                      Yeah well the forum is where dreams come true.  Duh.

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                                      • swiss-jeansfreakS
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                                        @Matt:

                                        Although I wash mine inside out, I’m not entirely convinced it does anything.  If you wash them by themselves then the only thing to agitate would be the smooth interior of the machine.  If you wash them inside out then they agitate against themselves which is more abrasive.  They’ll fade far more with wear than with washing.  @swiss-jeansfreak never washes his and I’ve never seen a more faded pair of jeans here or anywhere else.

                                        Many washes causes quite a lot of indigo loss with more sky faded jeans and with less prominent contrasts on whiskers and honey combs.
                                        Sun bleach can also make your jeans look brighter.

                                        The main reason to wash a jeans inside out is to prevent unwanted random creases created through some foldings during the washing process.

                                        You can expect a bit less contrast whiskers and honey combs if worn never washed over a very long time since dirt and grim will cover the denim fabric a bit But it will pop up much stronger after the first wash then.

                                        I just wear my raw denim gear dry since my stuff seens to have a water allergy ha ha

                                        Really roughest vintage or raw denim rags deserves to survive for ever! So never throw away any raw denim rags - Use them as long as possible and when it comes to their end - there is a safe place where your favorite items can rest in peace for ever in the Jeansmseum ruedi.karrer@jeansmuseum.org

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                                        • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                          I think machine washing jeans changes their material composition slightly too. Like the texture completely changes. I can't tell if it is from the oils in the denim from your skin or if it does something to the fibers but machine washed jeans feel drier to me. They seem to stay softer and silkier if you only hand wash. I'm too 'filthy' to not ever wash my jeans. Ive tried like 20 different pairs and I definitely don't have the will power to go that far. I think the most I've ever gone is a year with my 2017 pair of UHR. They are still unwashed and only soaked but they also still stink to high heaven. Still, like I haven't worn them for several years…

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                                          • J
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                                            My jeans have actually never smelled bad even after wearing for months straight. I always have to wash them because I spill food on them or they get pissed or barfed on.

                                            That leads me to another random question.
                                            What about denim makes it not stink like other fabrics? For instance, if I wore a pair of sweats for 2 months straight it would smell horrible.

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