Random questions to which you seek an answer

[Daniel San]

Have that stretcher too, works great !
Can highly recommend

[SKT]

@spitfiredealer  I will recommend this contraption…just not for whipcord which I have found (like those before me) has zero give.  Good luck!

[Jett129]

One of the services that Rain at Indigoproof offers is waist expansion, which I think she does by inserting a piece of fabric/denim in the back. While sending your jeans do The US doesn’t seem practical it might be something to consider.

[spitfiredealer]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Copped one of those stretcher's. Will report back with results

[Jeanmoreau]

Jeans buttoned or unbuttoned when washing?

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[neph93]

@Jeanmoreau:

Jeans buttoned or unbuttoned when washing?

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Doesn’t matter I think. I wash mine unbuttoned.

[Matt]

I button the top button every time I take them off, for no particular reason.

[Jett129]

Buttoned up…Shirts and jeans.

[Jeanmoreau]

I’m thinking buttoned would preserve the dye better.

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[goosehd]

@Jeanmoreau Curious if you wash your jeans inside out?

[Jeanmoreau]

@goosehd:

@Jeanmoreau Curious if you wash your jeans inside out?

Yeah I thought that was a given

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[Matt]

@Jeanmoreau:

I’m thinking buttoned would preserve the dye better.

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I’m not sure why.  The only way to preserve the dye is to not wear them.  By its nature the dye is meant to fade.

[neph93]

Dye leaves through agitation and abrasion. Doing the button up won’t change that…

[Jeanmoreau]

@neph93:

Dye leaves through agitation and abrasion. Doing the button up won’t change that…

Agitation and abrasion is what is happening in the wash. I would rather that happen to the inside than the outside.
If you wash inside out buttoned, less of the outside is exposed.

I think. I actually have no idea what I’m talking about.

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[goosehd]

That was why I asked if you washed them inside out…less agitation and abrasion during the wash but....aren't we all try to achieve the perfect fades?  Wearing and washing them is all part of the journey.

Are you trying to keep them from fading?

[neph93]

Abrasion also happens just through wear. That is how jeans fade, primarily. Washing doesn’t actually strip that much indigo.

But if you want the least indigo loss possible then hand washing will always be best.

[Matt]

Although I wash mine inside out, I’m not entirely convinced it does anything.  If you wash them by themselves then the only thing to agitate would be the smooth interior of the machine.  If you wash them inside out then they agitate against themselves which is more abrasive.  They’ll fade far more with wear than with washing.  @swiss-jeansfreak never washes his and I’ve never seen a more faded pair of jeans here or anywhere else.

[goosehd]

@Matt:

I’m sorry @chrisjohnnick but once I convince Katie expatriate and move to the UK I’ll be weaseling applying for the next available position. The seed was slyly planted in Gosport and I’ve been lovingly tending to it daily. 

@chrisjohnnick:

side question: are there any openings in the stubborn crew?

side side question: are there any openings in Nashville, TN?

I am quite stubborn and have loads of skills.

I don't know if you two @chrisjohnnick @Matt were serious (or any others are interested)…but I just got an email that Division Road is looking for staff.  (Charlottesville VA)

[Matt]

If they open a shop in NM I’dbe serious.  I’d love to work for an IH retailer but I’m not interested in relocating to VA.  I worked in retail for 6 years and in customer service for 30.

@chrisjohnnick on the other hand is but a hop/skip/jump from VA.  :-\

[Nik]

This is a coincidence, was just messaging another forum member about washing and buttoning, but in that case in relation to bleaching. I found that unbuttoned jeans folded over creating a more bleached diagonal line between bottom of fly and pocket, so when bleaching the second time I buttoned them up and there was no diagonal line the second time. So while the bleach is accelerating the process, this seems like evidence that leaving denim unbuttoned might, over time, leave an undesirable fade from where the fabric can fold. But if the wash is gentle this is probably negligible so not really anything to worry about, unless you are bleaching. In which case, button and bleach big.