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    • ?
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      Curious if there's some more info floating around, but I noticed with all my pairs of denim, the indigos are always easier to break in/soften up faster than any of my black pairs. Is it because of the dyes themselves or is it a different process that might cause this? Sorry for what might be a rookie type question, just always wondered why that might be or if I'm crazy to think that lol. Thanks!

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      • GilesG
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        Depends what black you are talking about. If your black jeans have a black (or any colour dyed) weft, then they will be harder to break in because both the warp and the weft have been dyed.

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        • ?
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          @Giles Got ya! Yeah, do you guys make a black pair with an undyed weft? From what I can find, (at least the 555 cut) it seems like all the black denim jeans have some sort of dyed weft from what I could tell. Could be just plain missing it though 🙂

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          • Tago MagoT
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            @Ed-Rekuc Overdyed black might be an option, although this is technically not a black denim. SBG gets some great fades, although warp and weft are both dyed, even if it is different techniques

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            • ?
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              @Tago-Mago True! I do have a pair of Indigo ODs which did break in easier. I had to rephrase my thought process after writing because I though the SBGs were a undyed weft but then had to re-read the techniques. I guess the only true comparison I had was the Indigo/Indigo vs Indigo/Black that I have, where the IBs were slightly more (for lack of better terms) "Crunchy", but that could just be me. Thanks for the help though guys, I like reading about all the different types products/techniques when I can!

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              • J
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                @Ed-Rekuc Years ago there was a black/white denim and I still have the jeans in the 555 and 634 cuts. If I can find a picture I’ll post it. Don’t think it was especially popular back then. There are work and western shirts made from a 12OZ black/white denim.

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                • Tago MagoT
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                  @Ed-Rekuc I can find these two fabrics:

                  IH-1634 Black rope dyed warp, white weft
                  IH-634S-21blk Black sulphur dyed warp, beige weft

                  @Giles or @Alex will surely be able to add anything else

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                    @Ed-Rekuc Found the pictures and tagged you.

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                    • neph93N
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                      There was also one run of a 21oz black denim with an unbleached natural went than presented as cream/light brown. It was gorgeous. And singularly unpopular. Go figure.

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                      • popvultureP
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                        SBGs are pretty soft IMO... they definitely don't have that crunch that some of the other dyed weft denims have.

                        The idea of a black warp and white or natural weft is wild to me — I'd really love if IH made something wacky like that again sometime. Although I do completely get why it might be a tough sell. Kinda niche.

                        WTB
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                        Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                          @neph93 I seem to remember you having a pair of the jeans. Maybe they were 22OZ? Was there also,maybe, a Type 3,that at some point might have been over dyed? Or am I thinking of something else?

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                          • J
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                            @popvulture Levi’s was making 501s like that in the 80s-90s,but even they don’t make them anymore. Haven’t come across anyone else that makes them either.

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                            • ?
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                              @Jett129 You're the man thanks!

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                              • ?
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                                @Tago-Mago Yo those are awesome! I love how texture they are, like a slate grey! If you work hard enough, you might even get those puppies to full faded white 😆

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                                • ?
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                                  @neph93 I would have never thought that it would fade to a brown. All these posts are crazy to think of the possible colors and fades by just changing a few things around! I would rock those browns more than my regular chinos ✊

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                                  • ?
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                                    @Jett129 I did find Self Edge has a 22oz Type 3 Overdyed denim jacket. The BSPTIII22OZ. That thing is EXTRA HEAVY chalked up black lol

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                                    • ?
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                                      @popvulture Agreed! SBGs are super soft when you work them in. That's why I had to pause when I read it's black warp and weft. I really thought that maybe it was a white weft at first, hence why they get so soft.

                                      That being said a black warp and white weft I feel like could be just straight pajamas with how comfortable they could get lol

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                                        @Ed-Rekuc They are absolutely straight up like pajamas/sweats.

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                                          @jerkules said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                                          Thanks @pechelman that’s really appreciated.

                                          I like the look too @Giles, but it may inform my colour choice 👍

                                          @jerkules you're welcome. I know this is a bit late, but was wearing this shirt today and figured a picture could help your decision. PXL_20240707_012000683.jpg

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                                          • jerkulesJ
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                                            @pechelman looks rad, I really like the colour you went for! Did you use a standard dye kit like Dylon or something?

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