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    What do you consider "raw" denim to mean?

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    • UnTuckedU
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      Ditto…
      Never owned a pair, and likely never will.....

      Closest I've gotten is my Oni "Secret denim" (unsanforized)...

      Shockingly enough, "the guy who throws all clothes in the washer and dryer all willy nilly" is extremely apprehensive about washing these jeans using ANY methods. They will likely stay truly raw (And eventually, ripe) forever.

      In search of:
      IHV-04, med.
      IHSH-185, large
      IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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      • Matty123M
        Matty123
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        @UnTucked:

        Ditto…
        Never owned a pair, and likely never will.....

        Closest I've gotten is my Oni "Secret denim" (unsanforized)...

        Shockingly enough, "the guy who throws all clothes in the washer and dryer all willy nilly" is extremely apprehensive about washing these jeans using ANY methods. They will likely stay truly raw (And eventually, ripe) forever.

        Et tu Bruté?

        Maybe so. Maybe not

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        • UnTuckedU
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          I have a thing for slubby, irregular denim….. Sorry! lol

          In search of:
          IHV-04, med.
          IHSH-185, large
          IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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          • neph93N
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            @gaseousclay:

            I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate.

            How do you feel about the terminology? Raw=loomstate?

            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

            • Dame Vera Lynn
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            • manufc10M
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              @neph93:

              @madmonday:

              you use a lot of words neph, what you mean about 21oz denim?

              It was a pre bedtime post, and I have a rule, “Why use one word when you can use 259?”

              It’s edited for clarity now but my point was that great denim doesn’t have to be raw to be excellent, unique etc and the 21oz is a good example of that. It was tonnes of character despite it’s smooth even face, heavy sanforisation and fade retardant treatment. Hell, the SB denim isn’t even selvedge and doesn’t fade and is still more interesting than some Cone Mills denim I’ve owned.

              I agree 100%.

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              • Matty123M
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                @UnTucked:

                I have a thing for slubby, irregular denim….. Sorry! lol

                U find loomstate to be less slubby and irregular? Don’t be sorry.

                Maybe so. Maybe not

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                • UnTuckedU
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                  @Matty123:

                  @UnTucked:

                  I have a thing for slubby, irregular denim….. Sorry! lol

                  U find loomstate to be less slubby and irregular? Don’t be sorry.

                  I haven't handled any loomstate denim, actually. I was just referring to my love of PBJ….

                  In search of:
                  IHV-04, med.
                  IHSH-185, large
                  IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                  • gaseousclayG
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                    @neph93:

                    @gaseousclay:

                    I'm in the camp of people who dislike the unpredictable nature of loomstate.

                    How do you feel about the terminology? Raw=loomstate?

                    I think the terminology is accurate

                    WTB:
                    IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                    IHSH-19

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                    • Matty123M
                      Matty123
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                      Oh ok

                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                      • Ponyboy312P
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                        Please make it raw with ample thighs for us 634 guys.  😛  But not with the 16 cause I already have that one.  😃 I really fucked up not getting that yenim in 34 when I had the chance didn’t I? 😢

                        colonelclegg: if you threw up on them just wash them dude, especially if your not sure if its your puke…......

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                        • piranhaP
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                          Raw=hasn't touched water.

                          Instagram: djdonniepiranhie

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                          • Matty123M
                            Matty123
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                            Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                            This was posted on Jan 10th

                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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                            • AlexA
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                              ???

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                              • Megatron1505M
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                                16oz vintage raw in 888 cut…....i’m in .

                                Heddels  😃

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • GilesG
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                                  @Matty123:

                                  Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                                  This was posted on Jan 10th

                                  That was what caused this thread to be started.  I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • Matty123M
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                                    I don’t get it either. Thatndoejst make any sense

                                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      Heddels is wrong more often than it is right, IMO.

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                                      • DionD
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                                        Funny enough it used to be called Rawr Denim before changing its name to Heddels.

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                                        • Matty123M
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                                          @Giles:

                                          @Matty123:

                                          Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                                          This was posted on Jan 10th

                                          That was what caused this thread to be started.  I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…

                                          I kinda figured that was the cause. And yes, it’s bullshit

                                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                          • Ponyboy312P
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                                            @Giles:

                                            @Matty123:

                                            Heddels disagrees https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/one-wash-denim-still-raw/

                                            This was posted on Jan 10th

                                            That was what caused this thread to be started.  I have written to Nick at Heddels and told him that the article is bullshit…

                                            Amen

                                            colonelclegg: if you threw up on them just wash them dude, especially if your not sure if its your puke…......

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